Olaf's Q and E now apply on-hit effects such as Lifesteal and Q speed/travel time scales with AS

Kingsgrave··2 votes·1,684 views

Why do this change?

  1. Gives his kit distinct synergy with his W in form of Lifesteal on Q and E

  2. Gives his kit distinct synergy with his passive beyond his W and E

  3. Solidifies his role as a skirmisher and a pusher since he would work really well with Ravenous and Botrk

  4. Solidifies his playstyle of low health high risk high reward with high gains from lifesteal and attack speed and low gains without fighting

  5. Gives him more to do in a fight than just run forward and die

  6. Rewards him for hitting targets and constantly dealing damage akin to old AD Sion and current Aatrox

12 Comments

Tis a nice day2 votes

On-hit effects with his Q might be a bit ridiculous if he gets a Hydra, but on-hit for his E I can agree with.

Flitchee1 votes

I don't think i want this.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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I don't think i want this.

It doesn't give him any direct power, it gives him more survivability in the mid and late game which he honestly severely lacks currently. Would also help his jungle clear and objective control without effecting his damage output.

youngjake931 votes

That would also make him die to Rammus.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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That would also make him die to Rammus.

As an autoattacker he already has difficulty with Rammus, but giving him direct access to lifesteal beyond Q and E gives him more sustain against things like Rammus and Thornmail

youngjake931 votes

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As an autoattacker he already has difficulty with Rammus, but giving him direct access to lifesteal beyond Q and E gives him more sustain against things like Rammus and Thornmail

No? You would gain lifesteal, but you would also gain Thornmail and Rammus shield damage which does more than what you would get from lifesteal. Max rank Olaf W gives 21% lifesteal and Thornmail does 30% damage in return. Jax would also be able to dodge your entire kit. Pantheon will block your entire kit with his passive. Fiora will be able to parry your entire kit. You'll do zero damage if you are Blinded. I'm just letting you know that gaining on-hit is not all sunshine and rainbows.

Kingsgrave1 votes

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No? You would gain lifesteal, but you would also gain Thornmail and Rammus shield damage which does more than what you would get from lifesteal. Max rank Olaf W gives 21% lifesteal and Thornmail does 30% damage in return. Jax would also be able to dodge your entire kit. Pantheon will block your entire kit with his passive. Fiora will be able to parry your entire kit. You'll do zero damage if you are Blinded. I'm just letting you know that gaining on-hit is not all sunshine and rainbows.

Blind doesn't work on non autoattack abilities. Just applying on-hits doesn't mean the spell is coded as an autoattack.

Jax dodge doesn't work on stuff like Renekton W most of the time because its a spell. Maybe they patched it but I dont know.

Fiora doesn't parry Eve E even though its a spell that applies on-hit effects.

Honestly those characters are supposed to counter on-hit people so I don't see the problem with it. Sure he has a harder time against a few more champs but in return gets a large bonus to dueling and survivability.

Zahz1 votes

Olaf is pretty op and really needs no buffs at all. I play him both top and jungle and never do i feel like im having trouble i cant blame on my own mistakes. what u are asking for is spellvamp and it can be built but why i have no clue

FHMarshy1 votes

Personally feel like it will make him too strong. His passive and w already give him a lot of ability to skirmish as of right now. I agree he can have some changes but on hit for both q and e will most likely make him the subject of the next nerf

FooDang1 votes

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Olaf's Q and E now apply on-hit effects such as Lifesteal

Olaf's Q can already proc lifesteal (Physical Damage) and E is true damage...you can't lifesteal off true damage...

Kingsgrave1 votes

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Olaf's Q can already proc lifesteal (Physical Damage) and E is true damage...you can't lifesteal off true damage...

Lifesteal only applies to damage done by autoattacks unless specifically stated on an ability. Q doesn't apply lifesteal currently.

FooDang1 votes

Your correct, I read the information on lifesteal wrong, Q doesn't proc lifesteal...But you still cant lifesteal off true damage...

Edit: You can spell vamp True damge though...not gonna help Olaf much lol

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