Hecarim is nuts

GripaAviara·Dec 9, 2017·41 votes·3,456 views

Jungle item and predator path and he does 700 dmg with 1 targeted spell? Seriously wth

52 Comments

BattalionDec 10, 201720 votes

Play Fiddlesticks, fear Hecarim, watch him run at 900 movement in the opposite direction. This works with Master Yi as well. You're welcome.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

ThegreatxiuDec 10, 20173 votes

I once played MS Master Yi and the enemy had a fiddle. He feared me after I ulted and I went from in the teamfight mid to bottomlane in one fear...

BârdDec 10, 20173 votes

item 3139 is your friend.

GripaAviaraDec 10, 20171 votes

Well, yeah, never said he has no counterplay, just he's in a very very good spot now

BlåbæretDec 10, 201712 votes

Hec is a stupid design. The champion is pure cancer when meta.

SwarovskoDec 10, 20173 votes

The champ is like a tank-low range burst mage when meta.

DaimaoDec 11, 20172 votes

That's just like, your opinion, man. Hecarim is a worse Spiritbreaker, and Spiritbreaker is just a pub stomper.

CLusDec 9, 201711 votes

Yeah, Hec can really RUN AWAY with a game. Everytime, literally everytime, hes been in one of my games since runes reforged hes steam rolled the other team. Even when he's mulching me and my team, I find it hilarious watching him just run people over and kill them instantly. Good times.

WeedbroDec 10, 20178 votes

at least he's not zoe

GripaAviaraDec 10, 201727 votes

Well, he def isn't, he's hecarim

Ramza ParadiseDec 10, 20172 votes

good luck dodging a Hecarim running 1000000 mph at you to slap you on the butt for 700+ damage. at least you can list lazily to the left to avoid Zoe

Sraeg2013Dec 10, 20173 votes

at least you can list lazily to the left to avoid Zoe

Unless she hit the bubble.

Then you die.

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

list lazily out of lane

FireDrizzleDec 9, 20176 votes

Having burst and cc imunity on a champ is broken because its not possible to peel.

Handy Sandy Dec 10, 201713 votes

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Having burst and cc imunity on a champ is broken because its not possible to peel.

Olaf ?

FireDrizzleDec 10, 20173 votes

You can peel Olaf with damage, if Hecarim can destroy your carry you cant do anything unless you have shields.

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

Olaf has either CC immunity or Burst reduction the second you press R for olaf all of his extra stats fall off until its cooldown is done.

KlydeFrogDec 10, 20174 votes

lol hourglass, banshees and lastly ga beg to differ

BârdDec 10, 20174 votes

Impossible my ass.

He is only unstoppable during the travel time of his ult.

Any and all CC is fully functional if you use it on him when he's already arrived.

Shields are fully functional at all times. If you're having issues with your carry getting bursted, buy a locket.

FireDrizzleDec 10, 20171 votes

Yes and if he r's my cc while moving past me and kills my adc?

I could build locket top sometime, but gargoyle makes engaging possible and adaptive is really tanky and has cdr.

BârdDec 10, 20175 votes

Hec's ult is classed as CC deferral.

He'll keep moving if you CC him while he's ulting, but he'll still be CC'd when he arrives.

If he R's your CC and goes past you, he won't be able to kill your carry because he's still stunned. His E will probably wear off (It's a short duration, and Hec's tend to go in for the hit at the very end of the duration if possible), meaning his burst is pretty much gone.

If he's not building tank, he's basically fucked at this point.

If he IS building tank, he never posed a major burst threat to your carry in the first place, since he simply doesn't have the damage to kill them without significant and immediate follow up.

Z3SleeperDec 10, 20171 votes

item 3157 screws it over as long as you aren't totally out of position like an animal.

As an ADC though, good luck.

jmp231Dec 10, 20172 votes

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screws it over as long as you aren't totally out of position like an animal.

As an ADC though, good luck.

Yes. Ad sucks against hec. He did 898 with e and then q killed me. No way to get away from him

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

item 3026 there are now runes to lower its cooldown

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

CC immunity only though his long cooldown relatively no damage ult burst immunity where?

FireDrizzleDec 11, 20171 votes

i didnt mean burst immunity I meant burst

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

like some one else said Any hecarim with burst is gonna be squishy with no defense and any hecarim with defense is gonna have no damage for burst but unlike assassins you dont have a way to get back out significant cc or a way to not be focused in a fight.

FireDrizzleDec 11, 20171 votes

Hecarim still has some burst building tanky.

Potentially Hecarim can get out after killing someone, just depends if he has ult after killing. "but unlike assassins you dont have a way to get back out significant cc or a way to not be focused in a fight." Most assassins dont have much cc and Hec definately has significant cc.

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

Most assassins have a low cooldown high damage spamable slow while hecarim has a fear tied to a long cooldown ult and a knock back tied to a long cooldown damage ability that incentives you not auto attacking while it takes 4 seconds to charge up.

Z3SleeperDec 10, 20176 votes

700? That's it? Kayn does that with his left nut.

dominusxDec 10, 20173 votes

By the time Kayn drops his left nut ( aka get SA ) Heca would have knocked up your entire team.

Serika ZeroDec 10, 20174 votes

heca is terrible pre6, you can invade the shit out of whim and shit on him in his jungle, making sure he has trouble getting to lv6 hence: if you are a good kayn, you will have no issue if you are a bad kayn that needs diapers and only spends time in his own jungle, you will get owned

Z3SleeperDec 10, 20173 votes

So much this. The first clear is HORRENDOUS. I'm just doing it and praying to god like "PLEASE don't invade me right now Lee Sin".

Serika ZeroDec 10, 20171 votes

to be fair, lower elo junglers (bronze) and mid elo junglers (silver) are most likely rarely to never invade. so, heca seems very strong to them

i'm plat and i rarely invade as well, in my defense, i'm not a jungle main xd

YoungFarmerDec 10, 20175 votes

He's really not that good right now, I imagine the hec your referring too was just incredibly fed.

DragonSheaDec 10, 20173 votes

https://i.imgur.com/trIcgyw.jpg

MimrDec 10, 20173 votes

That's objectively impossible at that point in the game.

KlydeFrogDec 10, 20172 votes

nonono play boy predator is good however its not efficient due to the high cd. better to get the increase in out of combat movement speed plus the one from sorcery that gives you movement and adaptive based on your movement speed. this also works with udyr due to bear stance.

GrReaper96Dec 10, 20173 votes

Predator + indigenous hunter for tht 50% CDR

MimrDec 10, 20172 votes

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Predator + indigenous hunter for tht 50% CDR

Electrocute does more damage and you don't need predator on Hecarim to reach anyone so I don't get why everone says it's so busted on him.

LordGeovanniDec 11, 20171 votes

the enemy would have to feed their azz off for that to be relevant while having allies that not only follow up but bait fights before you even reach in the lane

ZeroAgainstDec 10, 20172 votes

its also on a 120 sec cd.

jmp231Dec 10, 20171 votes

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its also on a 120 sec cd.

His e isn’t on a 120 sec cd

Champion SkinDec 10, 20172 votes

Predator is on a 150 - 100 sec cooldown

which can be reduced down to 90 - 60 sec cooldown with a fully stack ingenious hunter (which is also in Domination)

It goes down to 60 - 40 sec cooldown if Hecarim for some reason gets item 2045 + ingenious hunter

And the lowest possible is 52.5 - 35 sec cooldown with Ruby Sightstone + Ingenious Hunter + Cosmic Insight

ModValeevaDec 10, 20172 votes

You all complain about this but really the higher up the elo ladder you go the more unviable shockmaster/Predator hecarim becomes.

Ideally in a plat+ he becomes an Aftershock tank, which ironically deals even more damage than predator while building tank.

0racle0912Dec 10, 20172 votes

Yeah I got destroyed by one today, his build was: (predator boots) item 3078 item 3142 item 3800 item 3742 and he literally killed me drive by style :C