Lux is the most tolerable enchanter/shield support in the game

Moody P··9 votes·2,240 views

Despite her meta prominence I find her far less infuriating to be strong than literally any real enchanter champion.

Lux can miss her hard CC and her shield which immediately makes her less insufferable than being clicked on with CC I can't dodge or react to like Janna, Lulu, Karma, Yuumi or Soraka. She's not some generic "just don't be melee bro" garbage design that clicks E on their carry and hopes that all the free stats they provide their carry on nonexistent cooldowns lets them win the fight. Her ability to fuck up goes a little deeper than just wasting a spell or pressing keyboard on the wrong champion.

Keep Lux strong, and preferably make her the only strong enchanter until we get one that isn't a degenerate design.

16 Comments

Polaris I6 votes

She’s not an enchanter, she’s a mage like a burst mage I think and wasn’t intended for support

Moody P3 votes

She maxes her shield and rushes Athenes. At that point she isn't a burst mage.

Polaris I1 votes

She still burst and can combo an adc to 10% or dead.

Z3Sleeper1 votes

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wasn’t intended for support

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Intended or not, she is. Just like all the above were/are.

Support =/= not a mid laner. Support = support. A champion can be more than one thing.

In the same vein, a mid lane mage who fills the support role and brings moderate peel, Catcher-like CC and shields with Athene's like an Enchanter can most definitely be called an Enchanter/Catcher Support.

Polaris I1 votes

Just because they weren’t intended for one role doesn’t mean they can’t. I play Amumu top really well. Enchanters aren’t based on items they buy but their kit. Maybe catcher support

Zardo6 votes

The thing that you have to keep in mind-

ADCs have no counterplay to rengar. They have no counterplay to kha'zix. They have no counterplay to most oneshot assassins. Enchanters like janna and lulu are pretty much the only chance they have to survive most of the time, and even then both players have to be positioning well.

Moody P1 votes

some* ADCs do. Xayah and Kaisa are easy counter picks to assassins, Lucian can hold up fine against them.

And you're still wrong. Tank supports do just as good a job as enchanters at peeling the assassin and even the easiest tank support takes more effort and knowledge to win with than any enchanter bar Yuumi.

Zardo2 votes

What's a leona going to do against a fed rengar? He'll overkill the ADC through locket before she has a chance to cc them. It's a similar case for other assassins. Poppy and thresh are pretty much the only tank supports who can stop certain oneshot assassins from reaching the ADC(wukong and rengar notably).

That's the main thing. Tank supports are great at stopping assassins AFTER they've leaped to the adc and done their burst combo. A oneshot assassin isn't going to just walk into a braum, they're going to dive through him or go invis and kill them under his nose. This only applies to oneshot assassins. When it comes to other assassins like zed, they're about equal at peeling, with tank supports actually being better in a lot of cases.

Tank supports do just as good a job as enchanters at peeling the assassin and even the easiest tank support takes more effort and knowledge to win with than any enchanter bar Yuumi.

That's very, very, very debatable. They take different skill sets and can't really be compared. Anecdotally, i've had a much easier time playing leona than I have on janna and nami, and I have much less experience on leona. If you're duo with a great adc, sure, it is easier to play a soraka than it is a thresh. But if you're not? It is so much harder to have a positive impact on the game as an enchanter than it is a thresh. As an enchanter, you have to do your job perfectly, where as a thresh you can leave your adc to rot and make plays elsewhere. You can abandon your ADC in teamfights and help get theirs killed. If you're playing soraka and don't silence the malphite's flash R when your ADC is out of position they will die and you will most likely lose.

Luther King Jr V4 votes

shes a mage and thats ur opinion i find her infuriating and her long cousin Morgana

abca982 votes

Yeah, if could discontinue this line of thought that encourages supporting with Lux, that would be great.

Ahri Baka1 votes

True

MiracleMorg941 votes

She's a mid lane burst mage first. Secondary is support, and is only acting like a support if she maxes W and get's support items. Most just go straight AP to be another ap mid in the game instead.

Moody P5 votes

Doesn't change anything I said.

MiracleMorg943 votes

Yeah it does. Because she's still completely different than actual supports in the bot lane. Less peel, less defensive items.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

I see you are interested only in the least popular

Dorans Pants1 votes

That E-harass in a duo-lane is complete cancer tho. Nearly as annoying as yuumi Q.

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