Let Kassadin's Q shield scale off of his targets AP as opposed to his own

vfactor95··14 votes·1,219 views

Basically it seems like Kassadin is shifting from a bursty assassin playstyle to a more hypermobile mana bruiser style whose specialty is being able to quickly reposition in teamfights as opposed to blowing up a single target. Also helps cement him as more of an antimage (he'd make a nice counter to the ap tops we've started to see more and more often).

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ModAcademy Kayn4 votes

Interesting idea. But I'd argue that his 15% reduced magic damage is good enough. He's already hard enough to play against when using poke focused champs.

vfactor951 votes

15% only really becomes significant if Kassadin builds MR which he can't do given how an adc will kill him in 2 seconds unless he gets armor items first. I'd really like to see him lose the assassin playstyle so if he had to get some ap ratios slashed on his q I would be fine with the tradeoff.

DanofDemacia4 votes

Thats so broken just stop. And the fact that hes being built more tanky already means hes antimage.

vfactor951 votes

Kassadin needs to find some niche in this game so might as well change his kit so he fits it. If he needs nerfs to accompany the change then that's fine but right now he's stuck in some limbo between assassin and fighter so I think it'd be better to clearly define what his role is.

DanofDemacia4 votes

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Kassadin needs to find some niche in this game so might as well change his kit so he fits it. If he needs nerfs to accompany the change then that's fine but right now he's stuck in some limbo between assassin and fighter so I think it'd be better to clearly define what his role is.

His insane mobility is his niche.

vfactor951 votes

Kalista has insane mobility too, but she's a marksman with insane mobility (whether this is okay or not is a topic for another discussion). Insane mobility by itself doesn't define a role and Kassadin right now doesn't really know what to do with his mobility I feel. Right now the only time he feels good is when your team already won a fight and you have a field day picking off low hp targets that are running away and that's not exactly role nor is it exactly useful when it requires your team to already be winning a fight by itself.

DanofDemacia1 votes

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Kalista has insane mobility too, but she's a marksman with insane mobility (whether this is okay or not is a topic for another discussion). Insane mobility by itself doesn't define a role and Kassadin right now doesn't really know what to do with his mobility I feel. Right now the only time he feels good is when your team already won a fight and you have a field day picking off low hp targets that are running away and that's not exactly role nor is it exactly useful when it requires your team to already be winning a fight by itself.

Well hes clean up crew. The point is that would make him op. When champions have broken aspects of their kit its hard to balance them. Riot prefers to leave champs with broken aspects in the garbage then rather then make it work.

Meep Man1 votes

Galio Kassadin Morgana Veigar WHERE IS YOUR AP/MAGIC DAMAGE NOW!?

vfactor951 votes

We need one more antimage champion to make a full team rito pls

AmightyT1 votes

Helmet Bro jungle. Rito plz

SleepyLionCub1 votes

I feel like Kassadin is supposed to be antimage.

But his kit is so bad at ccing and stopping mages from using their spells now (goobay silence). He needs some more tools to beat mages.

Curling Veigar1 votes

veigar is unique for scaling off the enemy, don't make him un-unique :^(

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

So what happens if you are laning against someone like Zed (if mid) or Darius (if top)? Neither of them have any AP in their kits, so you would only have the base values of the shield (and forgive me if I'm wrong, I don't play him), and I think that if a shield scales off AP well, it wouldn't really have the best of base values

ElJanitorFrank1 votes

How about he has 0 base shield, and he gains a shield based on his target's stats? That's a really cool idea, in my opinion. Leveling it up would either help the cooldown, or the percentage of stats taken.

No, it isn't overpowered either. If the ratio for AD was 100%, that's only a bit more than 1 auto attack from an ADC.

With this change, you might say to yourself, "Why not build tank Kassadin?" Because Kassadin has shitty base damage and poor ratios in the first place, as well as no hard CC.

Right now, Kassadin is in a bad place. You guys need to stop living in the past and realize that they gutted him. Not only does he have WAY less mobility than before, he also does WAY less damage than before.

Condottiero1 votes

"hypermobile mana bruiser style"

People have been saying this ever since Kassadin has been reworked, yet his most successful builds are almost always the ones which involve high amounts of AP.

Kassadin is already enough of an anti mage. He has mobility to dodge spells, a magic damage blocking shield and a magic damage reducing passive.

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