a discussion of Rylias's STATS (not its slow)
the past 2 months
has been getting a A LOT of hate.
and while the permaslow on it is a huge issue on a few very specific champ that can activate the slow again below it wears off.
that isnt what this thread is about
this thread is is about
core stats, aka 400 hp and 100AP
And WHY i think REGARDLESS of what happens to the slow that 400HP and 100 AP should stay.
first off i am goign to start of the statement with this.
i would buy
as a core item with just 400 HP and 100AP for its current price of 3200 if that is ALL it gave and had no slow at all.
and this is why
is a great item.. and late gameif you ignore the stats on
it will be better.
but the champ i play
is NOT a tanky champ. and MORE importantly my powerspike is in the early/mid game.
which means if i went
that if i want my mid game to be good.. i need would need to buy
VERY early. which would then ruin my early game. and if i wanted to be not 100% worthless lategame i would need to get it mid game.. which is the last time i COULD have actaulyl done somthing if i got a different item..
the fact that this item take TIME to get good makes it exactly what i DON'T want. i want to buy items that will make me the strongest at my powerspikes.
and belive me there was about a 6 month period of time where
was CORE on nidalee.. and i HATED it. because it **completely ruined ** my powerspikes.
the next item
again give similar stats to
and
. except it has less AP and less hp and the active isn't really useful on my champ at all, as by the time i am in range to use the active it will be AFTER i landed the spear and pounce in.. which means i am going to be running AWAY after the trade.. not goign to be spending the time to trying to use and active while i am running with my tail between my legs.
and again the passive gives me nothing as
i have a self heal.
so its MUCH worse than
or
so then we come to
, it has 100 AP which i want, i get the stats as soon as i complete the item instead of having to wait. i get slightly less HP than a fully stacked
and now mana but its worth it.
and i get the slow. now.. the point of this thread is me saying i would pick the item even if it didn't HAVE the slow.
but honestly.. the slow is EXTREMELY helpful.
the slow isn't goign to help me LAND and spear becuase it requires a spells to proc it.. and with my only damaging skill in human for BEING the spear there is no way to proc it other than with the spear itself (I'm ignoring the 1/10,000 chance they step on a trap)
but with
if it is fully charged the "proc" will apply the 1.5seconds 40% slow to EVERYTHING it hits. which makes it very useful for engaing or disengaging teamfights in which i normally cant really do anything as a nidalee unless somone is all alone or at low hp.
but honestly. even without the slow i would by
if the slow WAS removed
i would like to see something else added (possibly 10% cdr, or 5% movement speed, maybe 200 mana, or if i really want to dream... 50 armor)
but even if nothing WAS added and the price just decreased.. i would STILL buy it.
i do this the best solution for the slow would just be to add a debuff to the target that says they cant be slowed again for 3-4 seconds (1-1.5 of those 3-4 will be taken up BY the slow itself, it it will only be between 1.5-3 seconds that you arn't slowed and cant be slowed by
)
but i just want to say.. REGARDLESS of whether or no the "slow" stays. PLEASE keep the 100AP and the 400 HP
as
isnt somthing early/mid game AP champs who need helth really want to buy as it ruins thier strongest point.
and
isn't something long ranged AP champ want to buy