How to get Upvotes on Gameplay and Balance

HateDaddy··21 votes·1,140 views

This is a guide to show you how get upvotes on gameplay and balance. After reading this guide young lad (or lass), you'll be bathing in the glory of upvotes - take it from me, I'm close to 30k myself. And with these upvotes, you can use them as reward points to get discounts on various products at several gas station corporations and Walmart. Good luck on the boards of justice, young summoner.

Step 1: go to gameplay and balance, select the big orange button "Create A Discussion"

Step 2: make a thread title, it should refer to the following subjects:

•why you hate Zed •why you hate Yasuo •why you hate Lee Sin •Nerf Zed •NERF YASUO •Lee Sin is already strong, why are you buffing him? •please buff my champion with a 15% pickrate that already has a 52% winrate because I don't have a 100% winrate with them - make sure it's a mage. Make sure it's an immobile mage.

Step 3:

Ignore all logical responses that go into detail how you can deal with these chamoions mentioned above, ranging from counter building to mentioning how their 15-20 second CD spells that can block projectiles does not completely negate the poke from a mage with a 3-4 second CD spammable poke spell as their main source of poke. After all, if it's a logical response that is actually backed up by evidence and has sound reasoning to it, ignore it because it's not the fotm QQ that these boards are subject to hivemind to and evaluate their own shitty gameplay, even months after some of these champions have been nerfed completely into the ground. Remember, it's easier to blame the enemy champ than it is to blame your own play. Gut Zed!

Step 3: ignore double standards and balance philosophies that you have regarding any subject. As an example, as a Mage main, you cannOT stand that champions like Yasuo and Zed can successfully Lane against you and your 800+ range spamming spells with little risk or interaction. It's complete bullshit that it's a Melee champion you can't defeat simply by existing and clicking on for the entirety of Lane phase. However, if someone mentions you being a hypocrite for this stance and they mention how mages like Ryze, Lulu, Vlad, Kayle, Kennen and LIssandra invalidate melees top and force them out of the game for months at a time until riot finally decides to nerf them, ignore it entirely, downvote them and don't respond. That's being rational, we are not rational.

Step 4: emoticons, lots of them :). Also, don't ever spell out champions and items, make sure to always use their icons when referring to them even though the majority of the time it takes longer to find these icons and select them than it does to type out their names or abbreviations. Remember, this is reddit 2.0.

Okay I admit, this one isn't actually bad and completey fine. I just can't help but find it funny when I see 70 icons selected in a longer post because I just say to myself "dude, it would've been easier to just spell it out or abbreviate things lol."

Step 5: if you are daring enough to respond to a rational comment, keep ignoring the logical and likely more well rounded experience of the poster you're replying to. Simply put, keep saying the same thing but word it differently. You will get lots of upvotes this way, nobody likes to think outside the box. Even zions teacher argues this way.

Step 6: collect your upvotes. If a rioter responds and disagrees, downvote them furiously. How dare they come onto their own boards and make a statement that differs from your opinion. The audacity of these egotistical jerk heads who are all probably high diamond/masters or have YEARS of experience question your opinion that you decided to think up 5 minutes after playing like complete shit and blame the enemy champion or some item. If they agree, upvote them and say "hi morello omg xD ur my favorite rioter I lover U!!! All that screaming, whew summoner 3 I'm tired."

Congratulations summoner, you're now an upvote machine. One day, you'll join the 30k upvote club and be subject to going to various supernarkets and flashing your upvote card to get discounts on goods. Like seriously, meddler responded to my thread - I'm kind of a big deal. And remember summoner, disregard logic, acquire upvotes. If it seems logical and rational and goes against the hivemind, it's best to downvote it and not respond.

30 Comments

Stiv12349 votes

Or: Make a humoristic-sarcastic thread on how to get upvotes on Gameplay and Balance.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Or: Make a humoristic-sarcastic thread on how to get upvotes on Gameplay and Balance.

A wise man once said it is sometimes best to fight fire with fire. Or douse it with buckets of water, either or can be effective. He also said that Nasus seriously needs lots of buffs.

Stiv12342 votes

Ok, I'm too stupid to interpret those metaphors. What should that mean, "Nasus seriously needs lots of buffs."? You have used 3 sentences. 3 = triangle = Illuminati. Are you Illuminati?

HateDaddy1 votes

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Ok, I'm too stupid to interpret those metaphors. What should that mean, "Nasus seriously needs lots of buffs."? You have used 3 sentences. 3 = triangle = Illuminati. Are you Illuminati?

WAIT? Did u see it

Rewind slowly

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ILUMANATY COMFORNED

DJ Siamak1 votes

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Ok, I'm too stupid to interpret those metaphors. What should that mean, "Nasus seriously needs lots of buffs."? You have used 3 sentences. 3 = triangle = Illuminati. Are you Illuminati?

you're trying way too hard please stop

HateDaddy2 votes

[{quoted}](name=DJ Siamak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O4YTXRh3,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-07T21:47:40.438+0000)

you're trying way too hard please stop

you're not a real DJ

Enosetc4 votes

step 2.5: say that support is both the weakest and the hardest to play role in the game

HateDaddy2 votes

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step 2.5: say that support is both the weakest and the hardest to play role in the game

Yes and also make sure you mention that tanks are now weak and are extinct from the game despite the fact that tanks are currently the best supports and people are still playing Maokai despite all the nerfs. Tanks suck, why on earth would you ever pick a champion that's innately difficult to kill, loaded with tons of CC and utility and are often the backbone of a team that can both protect their carries and dive the opposing carry.

A Miss Fortune2 votes

Or just say Vayne is op

HateDaddy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=A Miss Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O4YTXRh3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-09-08T01:49:34.504+0000)

Or just say Vayne is op

She's definitely too strong at the moment. I think a lot of that has to do with the supports who are meta, notably Alistar and Braum who are arguably two of vaynes best supports. Extreme all-in pressure, which is something vayne excels at. I wonder if poke supports were meta how well Vayne would be doing. I don't think she's very good with them and naturally bad against them.

Vayne isn't supposed to really have a good lane phase, when she does, something is wrong.

Killer of Poros2 votes

You didn't follow your own advice but still got upvotes. What's the real secret?

HateDaddy2 votes

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You didn't follow your own advice but still got upvotes. What's the real secret?

Once you get 25k upvotes, you just naturally get upvoted

LoLKiru1 votes

This is about the Wind Wall thread isn't it?

OT: Even as a mage main, I don't mind Yasuo or Zed (and all of my mid mains are immobile Malzahar Velkoz Xerath; Malz sort of gets a free pass because he obliterates Zed and Yasuo, but you get the idea), whenever I die to them; its PROBABLY because I did something stupid or just misplayed badly.

Am I like the anti-GD since I don't want buffs for any of my mains really and simply want the game to be balanced overall?

HateDaddy1 votes

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This is about the Wind Wall thread isn't it?

OT: Even as a mage main, I don't mind Yasuo or Zed (and all of my mid mains are immobile Malzahar Velkoz Xerath; Malz sort of gets a free pass because he obliterates Zed and Yasuo, but you get the idea), whenever I die to them; its PROBABLY because I did something stupid or just misplayed badly.

Am I like the anti-GD since I don't want buffs for any of my mains really and simply want the game to be balanced overall?

It's somewhat about that but it's more about the general hiveminding that goes on here. Look on the front page of the hot topics here every day, it's QQ zed this, QQ yasuo that, QQ Lee sin and so on.

Sure, I admit that every community will naturally jerk one way about a subject. In honesty, on GD I joke about mages all the time but I really don't have any issues with their class or strength of their class. But I absolutely cannot stand the ridiculous bias and double standards many mage mains have when it comes to balancing around their class, for and against it.

In truth, when we are seriously discussing balance, I try to be as unbias as I possibly can be. I know some people find that hard to believe and quite honestly, if they're not willing to read what I'm actually saying when it will actually disprove their notion that I'm some bias melee player, then I'm not going to waste my time on them. If you want facts and you want to discuss things, I'm totally down. But if you refuse to acknowledge any bias or unwillingness on your part to adhere to the fact you could be wrong, there's nothing to talk about. When I'm being told windgall absolutely negates a poke champion, a class which has historically had very little counterplay as it were, then I can't really talk to you anymore because there's so much wrong with an opinion such as that. But it's life, I can try to reason and persuade you to see things my way, which isn't to convince you that I'm right but it's to show you that all probability, you're wrong and the truth likely lies closer to a medium of both our opinions as opposed to the extreme side you or I are arguing. I'm willing to admit this, most people aren't.

LoLKiru1 votes

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It's somewhat about that but it's more about the general hiveminding that goes on here. Look on the front page of the hot topics here every day, it's QQ zed this, QQ yasuo that, QQ Lee sin and so on.

Sure, I admit that every community will naturally jerk one way about a subject. In honesty, on GD I joke about mages all the time but I really don't have any issues with their class or strength of their class. But I absolutely cannot stand the ridiculous bias and double standards many mage mains have when it comes to balancing around their class, for and against it.

In truth, when we are seriously discussing balance, I try to be as unbias as I possibly can be. I know some people find that hard to believe and quite honestly, if they're not willing to read what I'm actually saying when it will actually disprove their notion that I'm some bias melee player, then I'm not going to waste my time on them. If you want facts and you want to discuss things, I'm totally down. But if you refuse to acknowledge any bias or unwillingness on your part to adhere to the fact you could be wrong, there's nothing to talk about. When I'm being told windgall absolutely negates a poke champion, a class which has historically had very little counterplay as it were, then I can't really talk to you anymore because there's so much wrong with an opinion such as that. But it's life, I can try to reason and persuade you to see things my way, which isn't to convince you that I'm right but it's to show you that all probability, you're wrong and the truth likely lies closer to a medium of both our opinions as opposed to the extreme side you or I are arguing. I'm willing to admit this, most people aren't.

The only way Wind Wall will negate anything of value, is if you foolishly blow something important on it (like an ultimate) KNOWING he has it up.

Jokes on Yasuo though, I wait for him to use it and then just all-in him while its down.

OT: I agree wholeheartedly, my stance on mages as a whole is pretty simple: If I am at a range, you are at my mercy; if you somehow get to me and I'm unable to kite you or lock you down, I deserve to die for misplaying (either via bad positioning, missing a skill or such).

I think theres things that are okay for mages (high damage and CC, long range) and then theres things I think are NOT okay (nigh immunity to melee champions), bear in mind im not against situational immunity, like kiting or such (though many mages have problems kiting, this more applies to ADC's unless you're Velkoz or someone similar with exceptional kiting)

HateDaddy1 votes

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The only way Wind Wall will negate anything of value, is if you foolishly blow something important on it (like an ultimate) KNOWING he has it up.

Jokes on Yasuo though, I wait for him to use it and then just all-in him while its down.

OT: I agree wholeheartedly, my stance on mages as a whole is pretty simple: If I am at a range, you are at my mercy; if you somehow get to me and I'm unable to kite you or lock you down, I deserve to die for misplaying (either via bad positioning, missing a skill or such).

I think theres things that are okay for mages (high damage and CC, long range) and then theres things I think are NOT okay (nigh immunity to melee champions), bear in mind im not against situational immunity, like kiting or such (though many mages have problems kiting, this more applies to ADC's unless you're Velkoz or someone similar with exceptional kiting)

We have pretty much the same stance. I have no issues with most mages not named Ryze, but it just irks me that a lot of mage mains cannot accept their class has some weaknesses. But the benefit of being a mage as opposed to any other class moreso is that several mages have ways to play around potential bad match-ups due to their kits or itemization, typically a combination of both.

kaykalos1 votes

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We have pretty much the same stance. I have no issues with most mages not named Ryze, but it just irks me that a lot of mage mains cannot accept their class has some weaknesses. But the benefit of being a mage as opposed to any other class moreso is that several mages have ways to play around potential bad match-ups due to their kits or itemization, typically a combination of both.

The mages i hate the most are the mages who can abuse hourglass, I deal damage when i have cooldowns u cant fight me when i dont have, that hourglass defeats the purpose of counterplay vs a mage, I pref riot to give to every mage who use hourglass dps worth 100 ap so they can built a defensive instead of this bullshit (hourglass ), u cant ever as fighter or tank to zone a mage or ap assassin. The most common scenario when u go to fight a burst ap champion, combo hourglass and if u stay (w8 for hourglass to expire) die from adc if not go for adc and get kited or go to deal damage to enemy tank. For real if riot want hourglass to cover the weaknesses of burst ap champions, then riot must create a item for fighters, that if someone blinks,flash, dash u can flash 2 A item that blocks then next 2 incoming ccs for adcs A item that gives a free morgana's shield for ad assasins And make thorn mails passive not unique for tanks People used to live with that item and they dont realize how broken is it

HateDaddy1 votes

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The mages i hate the most are the mages who can abuse hourglass, I deal damage when i have cooldowns u cant fight me when i dont have, that hourglass defeats the purpose of counterplay vs a mage, I pref riot to give to every mage who use hourglass dps worth 100 ap so they can built a defensive instead of this bullshit (hourglass ), u cant ever as fighter or tank to zone a mage or ap assassin. The most common scenario when u go to fight a burst ap champion, combo hourglass and if u stay (w8 for hourglass to expire) die from adc if not go for adc and get kited or go to deal damage to enemy tank. For real if riot want hourglass to cover the weaknesses of burst ap champions, then riot must create a item for fighters, that if someone blinks,flash, dash u can flash 2 A item that blocks then next 2 incoming ccs for adcs A item that gives a free morgana's shield for ad assasins And make thorn mails passive not unique for tanks People used to live with that item and they dont realize how broken is it

Hourglass is fine with me for the most part now that they shaved 20 AP off of it but I think some of the dumbest interactions it can have like casting it during Yasuo's ult or making certain abilities go on full cooldown (Veigars ult as an example) need to not exist.

kaykalos1 votes

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Hourglass is fine with me for the most part now that they shaved 20 AP off of it but I think some of the dumbest interactions it can have like casting it during Yasuo's ult or making certain abilities go on full cooldown (Veigars ult as an example) need to not exist.

I feel like rock paper scissors type of balance cease to exist at teamfights ( late/mid stages of the game because of hourglass)

tanks supposed to engage, peel and force some of your enemies cooldowns at their bodies assassins supposed to follow up engages, to kill one squishy target (hourglass can remove potentially one of these squishy target options) fighters supposed to zone burst damage dealers, if u force them to fight u they are no longer threats (hourglass remove this option) supports, support is not a class anymore is a role. I cant say supports supposed to do X thing, the only thing i can say is that the support meta for now helps more the kiting than diving mechanic (because of bot synergies) exceptions morgana and bard, u can say leona use her ccs for engage (dive), but after that the most wise option is to help ur allies to kite instead of trying to hunt down your opponents, my opinion for supports could be bad because there is not a clear definition of what a support supposed to do at teamfights (at s5) adcs supposed to be a threat for tanks and fighters because u cant spent all ur burst choices to them, but riot cant make adcs stronger than fighters, because adcs is the only guarantee target option for fighters

Hourglass has a broken mechanic for me, because hourglass (when ur opponent can use this item) destroys my ideal picture of what a fighter or assassin supposed to do at teamfights, but yes not many people can abuse hourglass anymore, pref hourglass to be a support item that can be used on allies instead of this :(

My opinion about lol classes is not completely right, because this game has many champions that can do many other things from other classes, for example mundo is a fighter but he can force many enemies cooldowns on himself like a tank (not because of his items but because of hir r), jarvan can provides tanks amount lvls of utility but he is not durable as tank and he cant force many coodlown on himself his dps is like a fighters dps .

CLASSES ARE NOT A CLEAR THING FOR MOBA GAMES. I just want to hear ur opinion about what every class supposed to do in game and why? I never listened your overall opinion about that, i am curious ! Also after 5 seasons lol wiki didnt update of what a class supposed to does

(sry for my english)

Penns1 votes

Lel umad?

HateDaddy2 votes

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Lel umad?

Why would I be mad? If anything, given what I've been able to accomplish and the knowledge I've acquired during my climb, I'm the one who has the least to be mad about.

Penns1 votes

What knowledge? Of course every champ is beatable in a way, but some champs are just much harder to beat --> nerfs I guess.

HateDaddy1 votes

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What knowledge? Of course every champ is beatable in a way, but some champs are just much harder to beat --> nerfs I guess.

Uh ok?

Penns1 votes

ok

Haunt1 votes

ahahaha +1 hatedaddy! take it! take the +1! lol!

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

Just write something about how much you hate riven even if she is shit tier compared to other picks at the moment and get free upvotes.

HateDaddy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mr Broken Wings,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O4YTXRh3,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-09-08T03:29:27.995+0000)

Just write something about how much you hate riven even if she is shit tier compared to other picks at the moment and get free upvotes.

Prior to these last two patches, I definitely think riven needed toning down. But with bruisers being good, her place currently hard to determine. The last time bruisers were good as a class was season 2, and back then just buying a chainvest shit on Riven. Obviously a lotnof things have changed

Krizalid1 votes

Don't forget the endless Kalista threads.

TacoTheKitten1 votes

You forgot Riven Kalista Fiora Fizz Irelia Nasus Rengar Tryndamere Vladimir Vayne

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