there is a different betwen being optimistic and being completely oblivious
this was UNRANKED!!!
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2585697480/207008136?tab=overview at 15 min i start a surrender vote
I DON'T SURRENDER!!! but my god when a game is lost.. its freaking lost... they had a 6k gold lead at 15 min.. 12k at 20 min and 20k at 26 min when they killed the nexus
this freaking J4 is like "we can win it"
i mean did we lose bot lane? yes we did... we also knew when a game is lost.
you don't get honors for "staying cool" by not surrendering when the game is OVER and wasting everyone's time
there is a different being being "optimistic" and being completely oblivious
believe me.. they COULD have won sub 15-min if they wanted to