@RIOT bring back damage of kayle

Frius··4 votes·577 views

not how it was 100% Q and E 40% but atleast 70-75% Q ,because is 8 s cd on single target,slow speed nuke and E 30-35% because its the main damage tool ,its like you would nerf adcs damage on auto attacks,thats how it was 40% to 25% E and base attack speed,becaus she uses it and those who dont use it have like 3.4% /lvl instead 2.2% of kayle

i dont like when i get tanked by tanks or likes of riven ,and outdamaged and i die instantly outside of ult even if kiting

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Noctius282 votes

you get splash damage and invulnerability to a target of your choice, you dont need nor should you have damage

GG Noob Team4 votes

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you get splash damage and invulnerability to a target of your choice, you dont need nor should you have damage

Yeah, because the ult is "super broken" she should be thrown into oblivion, for no reason (1.9% pick ratio). It doesnt matter she is being outscaled by a lot of champion and outplayed due to the simple mechanics by most of them (auto attacker, lack of burst damage, no gap closer, no hard CC, 1 slow, 1 low ms boost until you get 700 ap), they could bait her to the death without paying back. It doesnt matter even that, her ult HAS COUNTER PLAYS, you simply could just CC the ulted target, you could stop damaging it wasting your abilities or so, while at the exactly same time there is ekko with ult, that does same thing, but healing and dealing the aoe giant damage to enemies all around him. She is balanced to the point, where she is not threat to people, because how low damage she deals. Using her ultimate requires a lot of experience with playing kayle and overall game, it is really easy to waste her ult, and not get any benefits from that. People already know how to react to this ult, and this making it worthless in final. I would be glad to replace this ult with something different, because how stupidly situational this ult is, if you are facing enemies that has some more IQ than bots. Zilean ult is 2 times better anyway, same ekko.

Abyssphere2 votes

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you get splash damage and invulnerability to a target of your choice, you dont need nor should you have damage

I never saw AOE damage as a reason to give someone terrible numbers before.

Noctius282 votes

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I never saw AOE damage as a reason to give someone terrible numbers before.

when it's in every basic attack that also happens to be ranged then yes, it is a reason

Why do you think Ravenous hydra doesnt work on ranged characters?

2yftLP0KQC1 votes

the splash dmg and ult make up for it.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

kayle has over a 52% winrate in top lane, over 50% in mid, and over 50% in jungle. she doesn't need buffs lol.

GG Noob Team1 votes

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kayle has over a 52% winrate in top lane, over 50% in mid, and over 50% in jungle. she doesn't need buffs lol.

Made by a kayle mainers, based on 900 games from patch 5.11. Raliable statistics? While few guys who plays her often will get lose streak, it will get under 50%. Lolking tells us something different about her win ratio: http://www.lolking.net/champions/kayle&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

She is played less and less for a reason, coz there are better champions to play.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Azir has below 47% winrate for people who play less than 50 games and 53% winrate for people who play more than 50 games. Do you think he needs buffs to his damage?

GG Noob Team1 votes

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when it's in every basic attack that also happens to be ranged then yes, it is a reason

Why do you think Ravenous hydra doesnt work on ranged characters?

Because hurricane is better?

Aoe auto attacks has very situational use, those are used for farming, but that compensates her lack of aoe damage skills. Do you really think it has any combat use for kayle, after E and attack sped nerf? Because its not, the aoe of the E is not big enough to make the use from it that often, you rarely fight 1 vs 2 fights as a kayle, if you know how to play her, you never go 1 vs 2. When most of decent aps could use 1 skill to clear minions wave, kayle has to waste her time to auto attack them.

I bet a lot of you experienced "kayle syndrome" way time back, being smashed by her when she was strong but it was almost 2 years ago and things changes. Kayle kit is inferior to newer champions kit, thats all. Try to play her yourself maybe, there is a reason behind popularity decrease with her.

Azir has below 47% winrate for people who play less than 50 games and 53% winrate for people who play more than 50 games. Do you think he needs buffs to his damage?

OH NOEZ, MALZAHAR HAS 54% WIN RATIO, NERF NOW.

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Kayle actually has some of the best waveclear in the game. Even Xerath has to use both their Q and W to clear a wave, and if there's a cannon minion it survives. Ahri can't clear any wave with just 1 Q, she gets the casters but the melees require autos or her W to finish off (again, takes longer with a cannon). Ziggs needs both his Q as well as his E, generally has to auto a couple times as well.

Kayle waveclears faster and more efficiently than all 3 of these "waveclear" mages.

GG Noob Team1 votes

She has if she max out E. But then she deal power for farming ability, when for example ahri could max out Q, and still will be a big deal to others. Diana could max out W and farm and make a use of it as well, while kayle gains only 10 bonus damage per auto and few % of aoe from ad extra boosting mostly only her farming power. So she basically has to waste 5 lvls and a main source of damage from Q in exchange to get "more effecient wave clear".

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