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Sona x Rubick4 votes

Riven not building cdr beside cleaver, riven not building lifesteal, riven building titanic hydra when it is just trash, riven not building AD to increase her shield, nor her ulti AD steroid. Riven not building flat armor pene build. Riven losing against malphite.

i wish there was a veigar mid to destroy you in 2 sec instead of a viktor.

HateDaddy5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfE4yoqt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-09-01T22:19:05.542+0000)

Riven not building cdr beside cleaver, riven not building lifesteal, riven building titanic hydra when it is just trash, riven not building AD to increase her shield, nor her ulti AD steroid. Riven not building flat armor pene build. Riven losing against malphite.

-Riven had CDR runes -Riven was getting dumpstered because Malphite is good against her -Titanic Hydra isn't trash but it is bad on her and I laughed -Riven built AD -Riven was building Maw

i wish there was a veigar mid to destroy you in 2 sec instead of a viktor.

Viktor tried to destroy me, I ulted him every fight since he was the priority. I could tank Lucian/Riven/Sion, but Viktor could kill me. You can get away with not building MR on malphite if your focus is to ult their AP and kill them, and Viktor (or Veigar) would be easy to do this against.

Sona x Rubick2 votes

it's k, you were malphite right? but let's see this riven build. 20% cdr from runes? let me laugh again, riven has no way to lose again malphite, her shield protects her from Q/E since it has a delay, malphite can't burst riven which means that riven was going to drain malphite, black cleaver? what about death dance that also reduces the damage over time? this build was the shittiest riven i ever saw, i could have brought skyyart here, he would have threw up immediatly at his main being destroyed.

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Viktor tried to destroy me, I ulted him every fight since he was the priority. I could tank Lucian/Riven/Sion, but Viktor could kill me. You can get away with not building MR on malphite if your focus is to ult their AP and kill them, and Viktor (or Veigar) would be easy to do this against.

so what you're telling me is that you used your ulti every time on one person, letting sion and riven jumping in your team? oh wait, i forgot that this riven couldn't do shit my bad. I just wish Malicious Metal played veigar against you, running 1000 AP at 30 min using E-->W-->Q poking 50% of your hp from 1000 range and then back to get baron, instead you were against a viktor that can't poke at all.

HateDaddy4 votes

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it's k, you were malphite right? but let's see this riven build. 20% cdr from runes? let me laugh again, riven has no way to lose again malphite, her shield protects her from Q/E since it has a delay, malphite can't burst riven which means that riven was going to drain malphite, black cleaver? what about death dance that also reduces the damage over time? this build was the shittiest riven i ever saw, i could have brought skyyart here, he would have threw up immediatly at his main being destroyed.

so what you're telling me is that you used your ulti every time on one person, letting sion and riven jumping in your team? oh wait, i forgot that this riven couldn't do shit my bad. I just wish Malicious Metal played veigar against you, running 1000 AP at 30 min using E-->W-->Q poking 50% of your hp from 1000 range and then back to get baron, instead you were against a viktor that can't poke at all.

lmao why are you mad that I do well on malphite and don't QQ about tanks being bad? Like, you are taking this personally. By the way, we had a Lux and Janna, good luck with "just diving" my backline.

Sona x Rubick1 votes

that's the point i was trying to do ROFLLLLLLLLLL. you were better than riven, that's all lmao. Nothing proving that "jk i 1v2 them cause malphite is balanced", nor that tanks are fine.

https://youtu.be/dBoHHV2Th2E?t=55

take that riven build, idk if the game would have been the same fam. Would he have built black cleaver instead of GA against a 500 armor malphite? idk.

HateDaddy4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfE4yoqt,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-01T22:56:27.478+0000)

that's the point i was trying to do ROFLLLLLLLLLL. you were better than riven, that's all lmao. Nothing proving that "jk i 1v2 them cause malphite is balanced", nor that tanks are fine.

https://youtu.be/dBoHHV2Th2E?t=55

take that riven build, idk if the game would have been the same fam.

Tank mains come on here and cry all the time that they die in two seconds based on games and the same applies to them. They build like shit and play like shit.

Why am I wrong when I do it but they're right when they do it? I'm not saying you specifically, I say this as a generalization. And don't tell me it doesn't happen because those type of QQ threads and posts get upvote whored all the time

Sona x Rubick1 votes

i don't know if you're right or if tanks mains are right, but one thing i know is that this game wasn't accurate to say anything.

Second thing i know is that flat armor pene is overloaded, forget about flat armor pene applied after % armor pene, forget about who builds what, forget about that there is a cleaver or two in each game, it's a fact that bruisers won't rush armor, Singed needs roa and maybe rylai, Darius needs black cleaver, Jax needs trinity force. Only full tanks champ like nautilus,malphite or rammus can do it.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

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i don't know if you're right or if tanks mains are right, but one thing i know is that this game wasn't accurate to say anything.

Second thing i know is that flat armor pene is overloaded, forget about flat armor pene applied after % armor pene, forget about who builds what, forget about that there is a cleaver or two in each game, it's a fact that bruisers won't rush armor, Singed needs roa and maybe rylai, Darius needs black cleaver, Jax needs trinity force. Only full tanks champ like nautilus,malphite or rammus can do it.

A cleaver or two?

I don't think so.

Haunt1 votes

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it's k, you were malphite right? but let's see this riven build. 20% cdr from runes? let me laugh again, riven has no way to lose again malphite, her shield protects her from Q/E since it has a delay, malphite can't burst riven which means that riven was going to drain malphite, black cleaver? what about death dance that also reduces the damage over time? this build was the shittiest riven i ever saw, i could have brought skyyart here, he would have threw up immediatly at his main being destroyed.

so what you're telling me is that you used your ulti every time on one person, letting sion and riven jumping in your team? oh wait, i forgot that this riven couldn't do shit my bad. I just wish Malicious Metal played veigar against you, running 1000 AP at 30 min using E-->W-->Q poking 50% of your hp from 1000 range and then back to get baron, instead you were against a viktor that can't poke at all.

you seem incredibly upset over this

jaymc11301 votes

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you seem incredibly upset over this

I honestly don't know why this person bothers talking all the time on the boards. Always antagonistic, is a barely competent player to begin with, and is never polite.

I usually just tune this nonsense from a nonsense poster out tbh.

HateDaddy6 votes

Also, I'm laughing hilariously. Tank mains use anecdotal all the time when they build like shit and die but I do it and it's "no no bro shes bad, you got lucky!" So my anecdotal isn't good enough but yours is? lmao

PermabannedGaren4 votes

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J/K, I 1v2'd and ignored their flat pen/BC builds because Malphite is balanced

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2282104226/49005834?tab=overview

There are actually stupid people in this thread who believe that Riven beats Malphite, when Malphite can be 30 CS down on Riven, come back to lane, and stomp her one on one.

TyroneWatermelon3 votes

So you played a character with high base damage,natural tankiness and damage scaling of tankiness with a lot that even a chimpanzee can play and did a good job? Wow You're so good at this game!

Riven Main1 votes

you could say that, p.s don't show players names it's actually against the rules as name shaming.

Although Riven didn't build a blood thirster like she should have. And then built a titanic ._. after her cleaver. Only reason a malphite should ever beat a riven is if he goes full ap on her. but even then she should be zoning him from cs

HateDaddy4 votes

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you could say that, p.s don't show players names it's actually against the rules as name shaming.

Although Riven didn't build a blood thirster like she should have. And then built a titanic ._. after her cleaver. Only reason a malphite should ever beat a riven is if he goes full ap on her. but even then she should be zoning him from cs

It's only name and shame if you post their actual names. And Malphite is fine against Riven, the only time she can kill him is early. And his early damage/trading isn't bad, you just have to be smart and play the first few levels back. If Riven wants to trade, she's forced to trade in a minion wave and push it. So you eat some harass from her but she's never a threat to kill you if you aren't stupid. Then you farm out Sunfire and proceed to shit on her if she tries to all-in you.

I admit Riven should never really die to malphite with all her mobility but if the lane goes even, which its not hard to do, Malph outscales her pretty quickly.

Ycagel Legacy1 votes

Until she hit some lifesteal and build item 3036 and proceed to litteraly shit on you.

The matchup is in Malphite favor early-mid, where armor is cheap and shut down Riven's early, until riven get some items, he do not outscale Riven, but rather Riven outscale Malphite IF she build properly. His build gave me cancer, Titanic is shit if you don't build HP and and hexdrinker is kind of unnecessary. Better build some lifesteal so she can't be kicked from the lane maybe ?(What a surprise ! You need to build accordingly to your opponent, who would've though ?)

I don't know how the game gone, but i can tell you that she definitely didn't put the odds on her favor.

Fondling Gems2 votes

Incorrect. naming and shaming IS against the rules. Naming players is not. Posting a match history in which you talk about how you beat up a Teemo horribly isn't naming and shaming. Posting a match history in which you tlak about how you beat up a Teemo horribly because they were a terrible player and had a crappy build is naming and shaming.

I can talk about a player as much as I want. Using their name is fine. It is when I associate negative things with their name that it becomes against the rules.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

wait how bad do they have to be so you 1v2 them. lmao.

Apocalypsic1 votes

Malphite loses to Riven until his first back. He does too much damage with armor only for her to fight him.

Coyote X Starrk1 votes

WHY ARE WE YELLING

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

Interesting. Did Malphite get a buff in the year I was gone?

Meep Man1 votes

Hhhhmm, his W got changed. Now it passively increases his armor by 15-35% and his W makes his next few AAs for the next couple secons deal 15-75 bonus damage with a (+15% armor) ratio and a little AP ratio that I forgot about.

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Inept Maverick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfE4yoqt,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-09-02T13:58:06.219+0000)

Hhhhmm, his W got changed. Now it passively increases his armor by 15-35% and his W makes his next few AAs for the next couple secons deal 15-75 bonus damage with a (+15% armor) ratio and a little AP ratio that I forgot about.

So he theoretically ignores at least a large amount of % armor pen and only really has to worry about flat armor pen, which shouldn't be a problem if he's stacking it.

On that note, I noticed the last whisper items don't behave like they used to, or at least the wording is misleading. Instead of allowing you to ignore 40% of their armor, its instead giving you an additional 40% flat armor pen.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Arcus Diabolus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NfE4yoqt,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-09-02T15:41:11.148+0000)

So he theoretically ignores at least a large amount of % armor pen and only really has to worry about flat armor pen, which shouldn't be a problem if he's stacking it.

On that note, I noticed the last whisper items don't behave like they used to, or at least the wording is misleading. Instead of allowing you to ignore 40% of their armor, its instead giving you an additional 40% flat armor pen.

No.

Subject 51 votes

Let's say that 300 armor gives you 70% damage reduction

Now let's say that both of those champions, for whatever reasoning . . . built flat penetration.

Flat penetration removes stats as a whole but not in percentage. So Lucian built item 3142 item 3147 item 3156 which are all of the flat penetration items, they would remove about 50 armor from the 300 armor Malphite, so the damage reduction would be around 65% instead of 70%, so Lucian would do obscene amounts of damage to people with low armor and no damage to people with high armor. Reverse . . .

Lucian built like a normal adc and built item 3033 item 3087 item 3031 item 3072 item 3508 item 3006 He would do devestating damage to the Malphite because he would take away 45% of the Malphites armor, so let's so that 45% is actually 50% just to make things easy. So now Malphite has 150 armor compared to losing only about 50 armor from the other build. Lucian would do tons of damage to Malphite regardless of his armor with these items.

Flat pen = Squishy damage % Pen = Tank damage

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