80% of games are like this in diamond.

option paralysis··63 votes·3,876 views

One lane gets fed and translates that lead into other lanes and the game is over. No way to come back unless they dive as 5 under fountain. We lost 3 inhibs at 19 mins. Ok then man, quality game, really learned a lot from it. Like what the fuck do you want me to do ? Riot made the game so snowbally that either you win at 15 mins or you lose at 15 mins. No fun either way. That's why I was playing flex q for actual fun these days. Solo q is literal garbage.

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68 Comments

dunder kill34 votes

You think this is something specific to diamond?

Velzard of Koz15 votes

Very likely he just didn't want to speak for other elos he hasn't experienced. Saying it's like this in dia just means he knows it's like this in dia from experience, not explicitly denying it's like that in other elos, too.

RocketRelm4 votes

I think his point is to specifically point at a high ELO (Diamond) to reference that the answer isn't just git good, scrublord.

TeCoolMage2 votes

Gold and below people can't close off games so really you lose 3 inhibs at like 30 minutes earliest.

Shattered Mind2 votes

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Gold and below people can't close off games so really you lose 3 inhibs at like 30 minutes earliest.

I h ave lost numerous games where i got fed and pushed hard but my team would come and help finish it and the enemy comebacks and wins. I have to the nexus and the enemy win when they had no towers down

Death by Glamour20 votes

80% of games in every division go like this

SwiftKitten881 votes

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80% of games in every division go like this

yeah.. this isn't a "diamond" issue here at all..

no to toxic11 votes

You mean there are 20% games where one player no matter if on the enemy or on your team does´t go 0/10/0?

FOR JUSTICE5 votes

Is this what games are like in the promised land?

General Esdeath 1 votes

I thought Masters was the promised land

ZeroAgainst5 votes

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I thought Masters was the promised land

can confirm it is not

General Esdeath 1 votes

But-but it's as high as you can go without being at the top so people can't flame you in Twitch chat for being "challenger lul"

Salron4 votes

I've seen high challengers flame challengers near the bottom Ego runs very high, especially the higher you go

CytheGuy1 votes

Why I only played norms

Saibbo5 votes

80% of games are like this everywhere

AIIan4 votes

in diamond

Sorry but that's just the state of the game in general, at every rung of the ladder.

https://i.imgur.com/RV7zDvb.png

It's a garbage experience overall. I've been having way more fun in ARAM since the last few patches (somehow it's getting worse even as the preseason is now behind us).

SorenAlucard4 votes

Dude its not just diamond, even in the lower elos where we have difficulty closing games out the recipe is pretty much the same.

Mid or Jg or Top (or any combination) rotates constantly on bot lane. Bot lane loses. Tower falls. Everything goes to shit GG

Sasogwa4 votes

I find it fucking hilarious that the 0/10/0 guy still outcsing everyone, like waaat

Leaf on Bush2 votes

Could be a case of giving up and farming on uncontested lanes while the team loses towers and inhibs 4v5.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

I mean, sometimes you can't contest the inhibs 5v5 either, so might as well get something out of it.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

There is one problem with that, you lose the game if you don't defend. lul

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Welcome to season 8.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

You could have done the same in season 1. It's not season specific to run down a lane and farm while you lose the game.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Yeah, but in seasons past there were other options besides just lose because of a small lead. Turtle and stall comps used to be a thing.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Well he was playing Vlad mid, had a Vayne ADC, not all soloQ teams are that bad at holding towers. There is huge variety of mid mages who could have done more in such a game. Also having a real tank allows you to buy more time, they only had fiddle jungle and irelia top. xD All in all the perfect team to get snowballed on.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

Yeah, sometimes its just a lose lose situation.

LankPants1 votes

When people are pushing down inhibs you kinda have to give up some CS. This is one of the rare cases where having a higher CS total is actually showing poor play.

Leaf on Bush4 votes

That's a bold statement but it would still be interesting if Riot would show some real statistics on this, because 1 game is obviously meaningless and you alone can't talk for all diamond players.

Daddy Ants4 votes

Electrocute Vladimir.

Electrocute Irelia.

And that's Diamond.

Jesus.

Bisaknosp2 votes

i was thinking the same haha

option paralysis2 votes

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Electrocute Vladimir.

Electrocute Irelia.

And that's Diamond.

Jesus.

how is electrocute vlad strange ? you go that rune when you build pure ap no cdr and you're a one shot mage, not a battlemage with spellbook and 45% cdr. but you're silver 5 dude, teach me da wae.

Gesterr1 votes

I've seen plenty of 45% cdr spellbook Vlads oneshot whole teams anyway with more uptime on rotations, thats why I think. Doesnt matter if you overkill them.

Linna Excel4 votes

The saddest thing is that 0/10 Irelia somehow managed to have the best CS on your team. Those CS numbers are what high-bronze players would have at 20 minutes.

Pika Fox3 votes

You got outplayed. Severely, by the looks of it. LoL is a team game. You arent supposed to carry when everyone else is feeding.

RocketRelm7 votes

I'd argue that "Your ally got severely outplayed ≠ You got severely outplayed."

Sure, it resulted in a loss for you and your team, but the implication that your skills were inferior doesn't hold.

ThatCriminal3 votes

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One lane gets fed and translates that lead into other lanes and the game is over. No way to come back unless they dive as 5 under fountain. We lost 3 inhibs at 19 mins. Ok then man, quality game, really learned a lot from it. Like what the fuck do you want me to do ? Riot made the game so snowbally that either you win at 15 mins or you lose at 15 mins. No fun either way. That's why I was playing flex q for actual fun these days. Solo q is literal garbage.

https://i.imgur.com/imixlR2.png

looks liike this in every elo lmao

Barkley3 votes

I'm glad someone outside of silver/gold said this.

Maybe now all the "get gud" idiots will pay attention to it.

densi2 votes

https://lildensi.s-ul.eu/ccinR9BP it's just so retarded

PopcornBunni2 votes

So what you're saying is riot should implement a surrender at 10 option.

I'm on board. When games are decided by first tower going down 5 minutes into the game, having to wait out the next 14 for the nexus to physically fall feels insulting.

Brutal DMG2 votes

You suffer by something that we all suffer, is called ADC & Jungle meta, when one of those 2 gets a lead they just make the game hell, and if both are ahead the game is won for them.

BTW, if you, the reader wanna know my rank, i was P2 demoted from my Diamond promos, then in this new season i got P5, and i demoted from P4 to G2 bcs of the adc meta

As an Akali main, i rage every time when i cannot one shot the enemy ADC with my 25/5 score. Why? Because with: Janna item 3072 item 3087 + Overheal, the ADC's health is like 10%, and the rest is just a shield, on top of a shield, with another shield on top of another shield. How can i deal with something like this as an assassin that is supposed to get in, kill, and get out in like 2 seconds to prove my skill? I'm telling you: I can't.

Yenn2 votes

Spoiler: It doesn't matter that you encounter this same problem in your Silver games, the players you play with/against aren't good enough to use their advantage to close out the game, and they pretty consistently make mistakes that can be capitalized on.

This problem is particular to Diamond, because the game gets closed out ASAP without giving any chance of a come back. Once they start pushing down your inhibitors at 15 minutes with an item advantage, it's pretty much over.

nm10101 votes

I was a big fan of the recent Beyond the Rift where Riot basically said something along the lines of "Losing a bad trade(s) and getting snowballed on sucks so we introduced a ton of defensive options to kill all aggression at high elo instead of nerfing snowballing".

pseudo dionysius1 votes

I don't doubt you, but do you think you could provide a time stamp for that? Thanks.

nm10103 votes

It was mostly satire of the first 20 minutes or so. Basically Qt and Scarra ask "What do you think about (insert safe/defensive rune) being too good" and Riot responding "Yeah it is probably too good, we just wanted to have good defensive options for hard lanes. If it becomes the default option it should probably be addressed" with most of the runes being the default option currently.

Gelmous1 votes

he was probably autofilled

option paralysis6 votes

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he was probably autofilled

nope, he's a top lane main. thats what im saying. he got ganked 3-4 times and the game was over. nothing skilled about it, nothing I could have done about it. riot just created a snowballing game that's terrible to play.

fyrepony901 votes

thats bot/troll it will fall to bronze soon.

karolmo6 votes

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thats bot/troll it will fall to bronze soon.

it's not. He just got stomped.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

My favorite part is that the Irelia still tried building more pure damage.

Celeste Benal1 votes

Lol, thats the entire game, not just Diamond

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