Dear lower elo junglers/mid : learn which mids need blue and which jungler dont

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·798 views

as a person who mained mid for season 3 and 4 and jungler for season 5 and 6. one thing i have noticed is that your jungler, will not always give you blue. and while i can understand this from both sides, a lot of it can be prevented by picking a mid/jungler combo, where only of ONE them is heavily reliant on the mana rengen from blue

now yes as i play BOTH mid AND jungler i know that certain jungler are also reliant on blue.

and one of the important things during drafting is if you mid laner PICKS a champ likeOrianna Syndra Ziggs blue is going to give them a HUGE advantage during lane

so if u pick a champ likeRekSai to jungle with, which blue is almost worthless on, you can give it to your mid every time. giving them a very sizable advantage, or keep them in the game if they are losing thier matchup even while you can be applying pressure to other lanes or just farming your jungle

where as if you have a mid laner likeZed Katarina Vladimir Yasuo or rather pretty much anyone who doesn't use mana, then you almost never have to give blue to them, so u can pick champs that either use a lot of mana in the jungle early on.. or that would run out fast in extended team fights from high damage cost spells on lower cooldowns

such as Nidalee

also keep in mind that ocean drake although not that great for hp rengen early on. can make a big difference in mana reneg. meaning you can slowly win your lane by forcing your opponent to back from eventually reaching zero mana.

and if you can get 2 or 3 ocean drakes, then you pretty much have infinite mana for everyone on your team.

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

its my jungle and my buff.. ill decided if i give buffs or not

ZED G0D1 votes

That is why Ivern Is such a evolutionary jungler. I main Zed and believe me.. Giving me a blue will allow me to crush my enemy into extinction due to the amount of energy regen I get and CDR. Being able to split your buffs with your jungle is heaven, everyone wins. But yeah I disagree with your little post about not giving zeds blues...man I can throw out so much harass with a blue buff, my enemy has no choice but to either tough it out, or go B before I hit 6 and wreck your lane.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

however if i have a caster adc Ezreal for example and he is blue side and i know giving him blue ( if ahead ) can help him or Corki Varus then ill try to give to them cuz they are winning and carrying... it should be up to the jungle who gets what buffs and when, like i said when i jungle its my buffs my jungle ill decided who gets

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMR18FY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-10-10T04:27:04.749+0000)

however if i have a caster adc Ezreal for example and he is blue side and i know giving him blue ( if ahead ) can help him or Corki Varus then ill try to give to them cuz they are winning and carrying... it should be up to the jungle who gets what buffs and when, like i said when i jungle its my buffs my jungle ill decided who gets

well yeah and at the same time,, you can always give your ally the opposing jungler's blue buff if you can do so safetly.

but i was mostly refering to the early laning phase,

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

depends on the champ im on , if im on a mana/cdr reliant jungler then i might take the 1st two blues til i get to where i have items to maintain my mana

SwiftKitten882 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMR18FY,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-10T04:34:32.414+0000)

depends on the champ im on , if im on a mana/cdr reliant jungler then i might take the 1st two blues til i get to where i have items to maintain my mana

yeah most jungler don't need blue after they completeitem 1410 unless its a prolonged teamfight becuase of the free mana in the jungle.

but what i was saying is a champ likeZiggs /Orianna /Syndra can get a CRAZY lead on their opponent if you give them an early blue.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yep and the downvotes of hate come through cuz i have a different thought process lol

and champs that need the blue more then those would be

Anivia AurelionSol Azir Cassiopeia Kassadin Malzahar Swain

SwiftKitten881 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NFMR18FY,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-10T04:47:13.553+0000)

yep and the downvotes of hate come through cuz i have a different thought process lol

and champs that need the blue more then those would be

Anivia AurelionSol Azir Cassiopeia Kassadin Malzahar Swain

Anivia andCassiopeia i really dont think need it as much becuase they get item 3070 so early. and ever since the 15% mana refund it is REALLY freaking effective as an mana item,

i cant speak about the others.. but part of the reason WHY the three i listed want an early blue so much is because they always want to buy a large AP item first back. becuase it makes CSing so much freaking easier.

aka Syndra will be able to W Q the entire wave of caster minion by throwing a melee min Orianna will be able to Q W E Q to take out the entire wave Ziggs will be able to spam his Q to clear the wave and push to their turret and get an nearly 100% guaranteed first turret gold

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

the reason i say those champ need it more they have to build tear just to manage their mana and it gives them an ap buff and cdr buff which will help them morein lane when they are weak before they scale with their items

WoonStruck1 votes

None of the mid-laners **need **blue anymore.

item 3802 oritem 3070 along with the standard item 1056 item 1056 start means nobody's ever exceedingly short on mana unless they're horrible at managing it...which isn't on the jungler.

Blue helps. Its not required on anyone anymore, though.


If they're ahead, I'll happily give it over to provide more of an advantage to them, but if they're giving it up by dying or not making use of it to roam or pressure, I'll take it without a second thought.

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