Its official, karthus has a >50% wr against every single adc in the game bot lane

Rexxiee··3 votes·1,481 views

https://u.gg/lol/champions/karthus/build/?role=adc

Even lucian is at 49% wr against karthus, and the others are even worse (poor champs like jinx with 45% wr against it)

Please nerf him already, auto win champ bot lane.

14 Comments

Percentages3 votes

As someone who has played against this asinine BS several times, I partially agree. They need to change the way DH interacts, like why did it go from procing on an AA to literally any ability will proc it? He literally never runs out of mana. He can spam his Q nonstop for several minutes. It doesn't help that his Q Range matches most adc's atk range so he's able to perfectly lay q if you even dare approach to AA a minion.

Mordepool3 votes

Its official: The Small sample size makes Winrate statistics almost irrelevant.

Kai Guy1 votes

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MrFawknSunshine2 votes

well that may be but its cuz partly people are slow to learn and adapt

i mean how hard is it as an adc to take something like NULL ORB in runes to help vs his magic damage/ult or maybe just maybe get something like a item 3155 early to help vs his damage so he cant push you out or get free kills with ULTs

JackMcSnipeyz5 votes

Buying defensive early is a death sentance to your relevancy for the next 10 minutes of the game, that's part of the marksmen problem. You cant efford to build anything but Botrk/storm razor or you will be so behind you will never come back.

Yes, maybe karthus ult wont finish you by it's own, but you still wont be able to fight him since his poke is constant so he has no problem popping it then going all in, but at the same time, you put yourself so behind in terms of damage, karthus will just roll over you with his AoE and slow and you wont be able to trade with him. That's not even counting OTHER champions who arent karthus.

This is a DH and marksmen problem tho, karthus as a champion is fine

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

ok so whats wrong with getting some defensive from null orb or going resolve 2ndry with second wind/ revitalize ? so when you take damage you get hp per 5 regen or you have a healer for a support makes their healing more effective on you?

ok get timewarp tonic /biscuit delivery start item 2033 to have stupid sustain in lane to start the game

most adcs wake up period is 2 items into mid game some are 3 so how would a 500 gold refill-able be a bad investment?

i dont get how having a lil def early vs a ranged carry that is gonna be the biggest source of damage from the enemy a problem? i get what you are saying but if you deny him killing you/pulling you out of lane then you win lane by default

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

Null orb wont do shit, the shield is too small and the CD is long enough for karthus to drop you pretty easily. Same with all your other suggestions, defensive is not optional for marksmen, you are already not relevent without your core 4 items (Storm, Zeal, IE, armor pen) that you cant efford to rush hex drinker or take defensive runes because the runes wont be enough to stop the amount of damage in the game, and the items will just set you back from the point you become relevent.

This is a game balance problem, not just karthus, but karthus will still be relevent with 1 item even after he dies, marksmen wont.

I lit your baby2 votes

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well that may be but its cuz partly people are slow to learn and adapt

i mean how hard is it as an adc to take something like NULL ORB in runes to help vs his magic damage/ult or maybe just maybe get something like a item 3155 early to help vs his damage so he cant push you out or get free kills with ULTs

Getiing useless item that wont help you fight or farm.

At least you can lane vs constantly pushing and poking mage. genius.

MrFawknSunshine1 votes

it helps you it gives you AD and it gives your MR making you more durable plus the passive to keep from dying turning all ins

and karth is going to have to scale up as well so you actually have time to make up for it.

its like when ziggs bot carry was a thing for a bit i played adc i rushed hex drinker flat out won lane no question he couldnt poke me out or kill me cuz he didnt have the damage yet to do so

I lit your baby1 votes

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it helps you it gives you AD and it gives your MR making you more durable plus the passive to keep from dying turning all ins

and karth is going to have to scale up as well so you actually have time to make up for it.

its like when ziggs bot carry was a thing for a bit i played adc i rushed hex drinker flat out won lane no question he couldnt poke me out or kill me cuz he didnt have the damage yet to do so

YOU are not going to scale up well. Adc's not allowed to buy this item at all, if they want to be at least barely useful in the game.

saltran1 votes

Buying that early on any ADC is inting, that item is seriously overrated by the Boards jesus.

Hotarµ2 votes

It's Dark Harvest's fault, not Karthus.

Death by Glamour1 votes

he was fine prior to dark harvest.. so lets just remove that

Dr Dog1 votes

its not even karthus's fault, its dark harvest

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