.#sion is fun to play against
i love playing against E max sion him spaming E over and over it's balanced interactive
and has tons of counterplay, just dodge the rocket speed projectile that deals 91 / 136.5 / 182 / 227.5 / 273 (+ 52% AP) + comet damage+ scorch damage
Malicious Metal6 votesThere's currently a bug with his E hitbox that makes him unable to miss it.
Ahristocats3 votes[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NAmbiYph,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-27T21:36:48.169+0000) There's currently a bug with his E hitbox that makes him unable to miss it.
sure a bug now explains everything! it's not like for weeks the boards defended sion being broken because "he's fun to play against" when they could play against him for 2 min and see how enjoyable it is to a point where pro players themselves playing in LCK deems that sion is one of the most unfun champion to play against
[slayer-jinx-wink]
MorganFreemanBot2 votes[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NAmbiYph,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-27T21:50:51.037+0000)
sure a bug now explains everything! it's not like for weeks the boards defended sion being broken because "he's fun to play against" when they could play against him for 2 min and see how enjoyable it is to a point where pro players themselves playing in LCK deems that sion is one of the most unfun champion to play against
[slayer-jinx-wink]
It's a legit problem; the bug makes his E twice as wide as it should be, if not 3 times.
E max has been the way to lane Sion since his rework, aside from those who were cheesing with lethality and banking on getting fed.
The current problem is the straight damage runes making him painfully pokey, but his E width factor is huge because it makes his damage unavoidable.
ModCaptainMårvelous4 votesJust so we're open about it, I removed the latter half of your post. It's fine if you want to point out a bug but you don't have to be rude or snarky about it. (That goes for both parties, mind you. If you can't be respectful, maybe it's best to leave the conversation be or take it to private channels.)
redniwediS5 votesI personally don't mind the lane, but I also play in a way that works really well against him. Everyone has their own unique champion pool, so I can't blame people when they are ill equipped to face such a strong lane opponent.
It's similar to how I seemingly can't lane against Illaoi, even though many can handle her with ease.
Ahristocats2 votesokay what do you play into him considering that on opgg the lowest's match up win rate for sion is 51.5%?
redniwediS5 votesSo, something to keep in mind is those win rates show the average. On most sites that show League stats there are two win rates displayed for each champion. One is just the baseline average for the rank level being viewed, and the other shows what experienced players and mains have on that champion. They don't typically show the main win rate on the countered page unfortunately.
I pick Garen into him, and I have also played Garen since I started back in season 1. I'm not a high elo player, but my matchups with Garen often stray from the average.
On LoLalytics Sion's listed win rate against Garen is 51.81%, and on League of Graphs Garen is listed as having a 4% lower win rate when against Sion. Op.gg shows something similar.
On League of Graphs in particular Garen has an average win rate of 49%, with Garen mains having a win rate around 56%. Now, there is a lot of room for error here, partly from me being meh with statistics, but the difference between the main win rate and average win rate gives a lot of wiggle room for people who main a champion to beat matchups that, on average, they should lose. My personal experience matches this, and I pick Garen into all sorts of nonsense that should work against me. My favorite matchups are actually against Gnar and Quinn.
Now, I'm not saying Garen is a good pick into Sion by any means. The average win rates for players who don't main Garen specifically say he's not a good pick. Plus you linked a comment from a professional player, and Garen is by no means competitive in the pro scene. I can get a way with a lot here, with Doran's Shield, Second Wind, and if the enemy has a lot of AP and Sion builds tank Spectre's Cowl, just as most Juggernauts can, but I have that extra edge of maining a champion who can do well against him.
Now that I think about it I'm not sure what I'm saying here, but hopefully you understand my personal perspective on laning against Sion.
Xenohaz1 votes{quoted} My favorite matchups are actually against Gnar and Quinn.
I'm sorry to hijack your conversation, but I have to ask, how do you fight Gnar as Garen? I consider myself a fairly solid Garen player, I had a 73% win rate on him last season, and I can't fight that matchup to save my life. Any tips you'd be willing to share?
redniwediS3 votesYou have to change your end goal. Gnar has better mobility than you, better team fighting than you, and in his mega form is even a better duelist for a decent part of the game. What I do is focus heavily on managing the wave and trying my best to CS perfectly. I go Doran's Shield and Second Wind for the extra sustain, and make sure he doesn't get an opportunity to hit me when I don't have minions around.
You see, when you are auto attacked by another champion your minions change target for at least a moment if your opponent is in range. This slowly pushes the lane toward you, since your minions are not attacking his minions, but his minions are still focused on your own. If the Gnar player pokes you a bit but doesn't go all out aggressive ham on you this can be used to keep the wave in a favorable spot in lane. Also keep in mind your E doesn't draw minion aggro, and lets you pass through units. You don't actually have to hit with your Q to win a trade with minions around.
I also subscribe to the old potion master mindset. The last game I played against Gnar not only did I have the Doran's/Second Wind combo, but I purchased 9 health potions. I probably need to get used to a refillable, but it doesn't have the same staying power as five health potions in your inventory does.
So coupling good wave management, high sustain, and the knowledge that I shouldn't be going for many kills I can stall things out to the point where the Gnar player feels pressured to make something happen. Garen is a punisher, and is wonderful at waiting for the opponent to make mistakes. If Gnar can't push you out of lane with boomerangs alone he will become more aggressive, and that's when you can actually fight him. Just make sure to ward so you don't get spooked by the jungler.
Here's a link to the last game I played against Gnar.
And since it's more in line with the thread here's a link to the last game I played against Sion.
For all matchups the most important thing is practice, but tips and tricks can help you get at least a small edge.
Xenohaz1 votesInteresting, thanks for the advice! I'm still probably never gonna pick Garen into Gnar, but it's good to know that I can potentially use my ban for something else.
redniwediS2 votesWe all have champions we just can't face, even though others seem to be able to. Good luck out there!
Dead flag blues2 votesT'as qu'à mieux savoir jouer :P
In a more serious tone, Sion is cancer, and has always been since people noticed that maxing E was more efficient. Tilterella is the proof of how cancer can be Sion. His E needs to be gutted and hmm... I wonder what kind of issue does this champ have with other champs... Maybe infinite scaling ? 
... No it must be something else
Ahristocats1 votesPeople always maxed E what changed is that now he deals nearly 15% more damage at lvl 1 due to MR rune removal
and comet/scorch got introduced ever since they fixed his E not working half of the time he became cancer to play against
Dead flag blues1 votes[{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NAmbiYph,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-02-27T20:53:27.040+0000)
People always maxed E what changed is that now he deals nearly 15% more damage at lvl 1 due to MR rune removal
and comet/scorch got introduced ever since they fixed his E not working half of the time he became cancer to play against
I'm an old player and for me, Sion's rework is still new in my head, so maxing E is faily new for me too. :( I remember, when his rework got released, people used to either max Q or W, not E. But this skill is absurd, a tank shouldn't be able to be a lane bully like this
The Bearded Bard2 votesI remember the good ol' days where Sion either clicked on you from medium distance then walked up to you and waited for his shield to explode, or clicked on you from medium distance and walked up and hacked you to death.
Escheton2 votesI hate playing E max Sion. But I love playing Sion and I don't wanna lose. I'm not building lethality in lane just to get some kill pressure. That shit is cheesy and falls off hard mid unless you get fed as balls. Not to mention less good than last season because they removed rune and mastery lethality for Sion because his ult is still bugged to not trigger Sudden Impact. Going tank does't work either because by the time you have an mr+health and armor+health item, Tristana is 7/2/3 and has 3 items that stack dmg multiplicatively because of how crit/ad/atk speed work.