So Riot decided to not even touch Vayne's stealth despite the fact that there's 0 counters to it
lmao
PBE nerf will not change a thing at all
Even if she can't burst people bork just got buffed
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Faie10 votesAre you really going to complain about botrk Vayne? She was finally in a good state before people started rushing AD on her, and she'll be back to that state if her burst ever gets nerfed enough.
DarkRitual4 votesI lol'd at "0 counters to it"
Spaceman5pff1 votesWell, you can't reveal her in it anymore, and they reverted the duration nerf.
I don't see it as a problem personally, but there really are 0 counters to her stealth now unless TF ult reveals it which I am not sure of.
Ultîma2 votes
Vayne doesn't have a lot of means to be revealed, sure, but it's definitely more than -just- TF's ult.
Ryuyah1 votes
Spaceman5pff1 votesOther than turrets?
I don't believe control wards reveal invis, and sweeper only tells you her location every 0.something seconds, doesn't reveal her.
Does Rengar Ult - Warwick E reveal her? Ignite? Red Smite?
Critmaster Garen2 votes
reveal stealthed wards and deactivate their vision.
i say to keep the game consistent, it should reveal vayne and disable her ability to see aswell.
edit: lol these downvotes. this was obviously a joke.
Spaceman5pff1 votes
Vayne will die.
Escheton2 votesYou know lulu exists right? Point and click champ damage removal.
Spaceman5pff1 votesSpeaking of Lulu, the attack speed buff tied to her W now makes her EVEN BETTER with Vayne than she was before.
Shield + onhit damage MS + Attack Speed Peel Hugify
Lulu is arguably the best support for Vayne in terms of synergy. The only reason we don't see her is that she gets CUCKED by the current meta of supports.
deadlychuck2 voteslol they should decrease the duration of it by 0.05 seconds, that way it feels the exact same, but doesn't trigger 
Spaceman5pff3 votesWaiting long enough to proc duskblade is a net loss in DPS compared to just popping out and attacking.
It will be useful when you are kiting defensively, needing to wait the full stealth out, but at that point you may as well get Ghostblade to help kite even better. Yes I know GB doesn't give attack speed anymore but Duskblade doesn't either so moot point.
GULAG 4 U1 votesIf you're so butthurt about impairing yourself by attempting to proc duskblade every time on vayne, take your masochism to the next level by one tricking aatrox lmao
deadlychuck1 votesI'm not, i just want to see that kind of nerf because it'd be funny, even if it had zero affect on the champion.
GULAG 4 U1 votesAyt then go to memes and games then
deadlychuck1 voteshaha, sorry the OP didn't post there
A Dizzy Lulu1 votesWell they did but then reverted it.
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CrimsonCobra31 votesDid what?
A Dizzy Lulu1 votesDid what?
it got nerfed to .5 seconds from 1, but then reverted today
CrimsonCobra31 votesAh.
Neko Caitlyn3 votesThey changed it back? omg Im so happy ＼(^o^)／
bad arcade kitty1 votesi believe riot made it last twice as long instead
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesbotrk vayne is garbage. i had a botrk vayne that was doing 1/100th of someone health with 1 auto
Spaceman5pff1 votes
You called?
Karn Bishop1 votesher problem is not the stealth, its how strong she is early game vs champions she should lose too, they need to nerf her early game damage/movespeed/ or increase some cd's early.
1011001110002 votesThey cut the early game ratio of Q to reduce her trade damage in lane a bit, if that means anything.
Spaceman5pff1 votesPeople underrate this nerf, too.
For attack speed rush Vayne, she wont be maxing Q so it will be a 20% nerf (ballpark of 15-20 less damage per Q early if we are using 70-80 AD as our starting number)
For AD rush vayne, it will take her longer to scale well with that AD.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesClearly not enough to be meaningful.
legionnaire991 votes 
all do allot to beat it there more if someone want to say it
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesriot said she isn't a priority and that they would look at her for the 6.24 or 6.25 patch
and honestly she isn't as long as other adcs are also ridiculous
Papa Andrei1 votesHey i found a sexret counter to her. Its called Urgot. Homing missiles op
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesA "sexret" counter?
DeathBurst1 votesYou mean, the stealth that they just decreased the duration by half?
Immortal spax8 votesexactly, the same that got reverted
Sckullzz1 votesYou know how you counter a 1 second invis? aoe. Naut e+w, all of zigg's abilities, Cass' abilities, Riven abilities, qss/cleanse if you get stunned into a wall. There are more options that most people think, You just have to do the unthinkable and make a change.
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