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Quinn has been dominating with a 53+% winrate for over a year.

Gosh Darn··5 votes·834 views

She currently has a 50+% winrate in all of her roles (Top, JG, ADC, wouldn't be surprised if she performs just fine in mid but there's not enough data), and has consistently been top 10, usually even top 5 for top lane. She's an incredibly safe pick, being able to deal with essentially every melee champion easily. The few close matchups where she doesn't just absolutely cuck her enemy with almost no chance of losing lane no matter how bad you fuck it up, she still has a higher win% because of her incredible roaming and turret taking. Most champions give her 1st blood turret before they're able to deal with her 1v1, and her early game is so insanely strong that she can keep most champions useless the entire game.

Quinn and Jayce have been the bane of top lane for a very long time, but Quinn has been dominating for even longer and I don't see as much talk about her. For someone with a fairly high play rate, she simply has too many favorable matchups. She's even capable of winning lane against mages and other ranged champions.

To have nearsight + a slow + an MS steroid + a knockback which puts her at max AA range from her enemy + 70-130% MS increase only requiring 2 seconds to channel from her ultimate is just too much for any top laner to deal with.

I honestly think the diminishing mana costs with rank on her ultimate should be gotten rid of so it always has a cost, and it should require longer to channel outside of combat. She's just too much of a lane bully to have her only weakness be ganks when she has several tools to evade 2v1s. Her kit consists of Q, E, and her passive, for a total of 100 mana. If she's going to be 100-0ing with one rotation, her mana costs should be far higher. She can afford to spam Q to harass, use E to disengage any unfavorable fight, and always have enough mana to pop her full kit.

tl;dr Give her a resource to manage and make her ultimate take longer to channel so there's actually a chance to force an unfavorable fight on her.

11 Comments

Apocalypsic4 votes

Quinn's pretty balanced honestly, it's lethality that's not.

No matter what you do to her without a total rework her home will always be top lane and her win rate will be pretty ok unless you just gut her ratios and base damage.

Her kit is designed for skirmishing and assassinations, always has and unless she gets the afformentioned large change, then it always will be.

And as well just due to the nature of her kit, not simply just mana costs, she will always be good against melees.

Hexs Fortune4 votes

She is literally a couple percentage points over winning half her games and everyone loses their minds

SaltyKracka2 votes

I can't but say I agree. I've always found the sheer lack of mana costs on her kit to be frankly infuriating.

Gosh Darn2 votes

What don't you agree about? Her pick rate and win% are way too high to justify keeping her in the state she's in. If she's a counterpick, fine. If she's an early game bully, fine. But to be able to do it all with almost no weaknesses for the first 20 mins of the game is too much for any champion.

SaltyKracka1 votes

It means that I agree.

meowwow71 votes

usually when i see a quinn it's usually top against a melee champ an immobile one at that and is trying to build damage instead of just trying to survive*[zombie-brand-facepalm]*

Chønklord1 votes

I play quinn a lot and let me tell you right now, it's all Lethality. Once they nerf the lethality items / damage output, you'll see that winrate drop real fast.

Gosh Darn1 votes

Her damage is an issue even before she buys items, and lethality doesn't change the fact that she has essentially no resource to manage. She might be less likely to 100-0 some bulkier champions after the nerfs, but her core issues still exist. Bully the hell out of the enemy, get first turret, roam and get even more fed, if you don't want to fight you don't have to with your numerous disengage mechanics.

Chønklord1 votes

There are plenty of counters that put quinn behind in top or mid, and there's always the tried and true gank assist to put any laner behind.

The problem isn't with the champion itself; rather the items they stack this patch.

Anu3isII1 votes

They will nerf the Lethality items she buys and the damage masteries that she uses. She will have a much harder time bursting people, and that is literally the whole thing that current Quinn can do.

Ars Arcánum1 votes

And to think just a few weeks ago, you'd get flamed for picking her in Solo Q. Truly a time to be alive.

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