So yea, Kalista's pretty much an autowin vs any melee champion top lane as expected

FalconPawwwwnch·Nov 20, 2014·5 votes·3,012 views

Don't play melee this patch unless you ban her

16 Comments

Rustling BushNov 20, 20146 votes

quinn does it better as a bruiser.

a call beyondNov 20, 20144 votes

riot already tried hard to make sure that melees have no place in the game besides jungle

Drunk RummateNov 20, 20142 votes

you're so biased it's unreal

lock her down and kill her. Maokai Irelia Riven Amumu

Killer X 12Nov 20, 20141 votes

I'm sure he is gonna pick up one of those champs just because Kalista got put into the game lol. No one should be forced to learn a new champ just to play against something that was released unbalanced.

Meep ManNov 20, 20142 votes

Well ya can't play the same champion every match and expect not get countered by a new champion eventually either. Learning about three champions that each can deal with a large variety of situations is good. For example, maining Maokai, Darius, and Gnar/Quinn for Top makes you extremely versatile.

Killer X 12Nov 20, 20141 votes

I dont' disagree that having a diverse champion pool allows you to play more match ups and generally be more flexible in champ select. I'm saying that regardless of whether or not a champion counters another one i'm not going to learn them if i don't want to. Of the ones you listed i hate all of them besides quinn top and i only played that like 7 months ago.

Brenticus12Nov 21, 20141 votes

If you don't want to pick up a champ that counters another or atleast is a skill matchup in your favour, then don't QQ about it in forums. If you get counter picked when you go top lane, that's just because you had an early pick phase while the enemy could counter you, which happens with all champions.

If first pick takes Nasus, I bet your ass the enemy top laner will take Renekton, Irelia or Darius sinply because they counter him.

Killer X 12Nov 21, 20141 votes

You shouldn't have to play counters to win lane is the point. If that was required then why do we even bother with normals where you know your gonna get countered eventually. Any champ should be able to beat any champ if played correct. "Counters" are just when one champ has an innate advantage based on base stats and kit.

I don't know why Irelia would be a counter to Nasus. Darius and Ren are because they have high early game damage. Irelia's early game damage is quite small. She is item dependent (botk or spell blade), and with lower damage than other tops like darius and ren its difficult for her to just win that out right against anyone not retarded. That being said, of course it can be done since any champ can beat any champ...the problem is that Kalista in top lane means that there has to be a large skill difference for the melee champ to have a realistic shot. While for other match ups that is not always the case.

Kuroi86Dec 10, 20141 votes

You don't HAVE to play counters to win lane. But expect a MUCH harder time doing so.

Leti the YetiNov 20, 20141 votes

as someone who plays quinn top, lol the likes of riven and amumu and probably the other 2 champs t here have a very low chance of even getting near me i bet its gonna be even worse with kal's infinite

because of high consistent pokes, they are already at a disadvantage if they try to get close and fight me

Brenticus12Nov 21, 20141 votes

They are countered by Quinn mainly cause of the blind. Without the blind, it's mostly a skill matchup and whether he enemy laner knows Quinn's harrier combos.

PerishSoftlyNov 20, 20141 votes

Riven among those is particularly good at sticking to Kalista in order to get her full ability burst off. While she might have initial misery trying to lane, if she hits level 6 at about the same time as Kalista and gets a Brutalizer and/or lifesteal Kalista will proceed to be demolished in lane.

FalconPawwwwnchNov 20, 20142 votes

Yea lemme get in range first

Do players even know how to abuse range in Gold V

Drunk RummateNov 20, 20141 votes

Yea lemme get in range first

Do players even know how to abuse range in Gold V

I got gold 5 in 60 games despite lots of decay and I'm masters in sc2. Don't act like your rank in league makes your input any more valuable than mine, because it's not.

I'm sure he is gonna pick up one of those champs just because Kalista got put into the game lol. No one should be forced to learn a new champ just to play against something that was released unbalanced.

O okay I'll just play yasuo into rammus and QQ about him on the forums then.

BlackRavenNov 21, 20141 votes

Yea lemme get in range first

Do players even know how to abuse range in Gold V

I got gold 5 in 60 games despite lots of decay and I'm masters in sc2. Don't act like your rank in league makes your input any more valuable than mine, because it's not.

I'm sure he is gonna pick up one of those champs just because Kalista got put into the game lol. No one should be forced to learn a new champ just to play against something that was released unbalanced.

O okay I'll just play yasuo into rammus and QQ about him on the forums then.

im not trying to interlude or anything but did you really bring up your rank for another game into league? like thats the lowest of the low. seriously dude..

NovaSpectreNov 20, 20141 votes

item 3800 helps alot with chasing down people, even solo. Also hilarious when combined with the new item 3056 , as not even flashing will save them (unless they go over a wall). I haven't had the chance to try this against a Kalista, but I know it works wonders with Olaf.