They nerfed talon and wukong, But Eve and Zed running around ?

ValiantKiller··4 votes·1,967 views

I understand they did want to put down the power of Talon and MonkeyKing While on other hand we got Khazix Rengar Shaco and Mr Fizz fall down too after his W change.

Yet Evelynn and Zed with their power and damage still got no nerfs ? Just why

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Cpy Payst2 votes

The nerfs didn't do much to stop talon and wukong from being good, but they are small steps to try and balance them. Talon needed nerfs compared to zed as the moment he reaches level 2 he can 100 - 0 almost every midlaner in the game and has insane wave clear and roam. He is hard to gank and can shove waves to roam. Zed on the other hand is really weak until his level 3 power spike and even then cannot usually 100-0 you until level 6 unless you get poked out of lane, also mages only need to buy one item to hose his kit cough cough zhonya's hourglass

Talon and Zed are both AD assassins yes, but their playstyles and counter play is vastly different. Zed doesnt have good waveclear early as his q does reduced damage after the first enemy hit and has to use w to trade with you and risk being ganked.

Wukong is still strong because of the CC on his ultimate, and in lane you get free duskblade procs from your stealth in "w?", so the loss of damage is not very significant. I believe this is to control his poke when he is played botlane, which in low elo solo q isnt even played bot.

Fizz did get a w change, but riot stated that his old w was clunky and hard to balance the way it was before. He can still all in you at level 3 and Phreak did the numbers in his patch rundown and shown that if you just auto attack after your combo the damage is relatively the same. He is better at killing people who survived his all in basically.

LechintanTudor1 votes

While I agree that Eve is a little bit overpowered, I think that you can deal with Zed as long as you play properly. If you play mages against Zed rush seekers armguard. This item gives more armor than Zed will ever be able to negate. Also keep in mind that Zed's W is on a 22 seconds cooldown and he maxes it last. Whenever Zed wastes his W look to harass him. He won't be able to do anything about it.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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While I agree that Eve is a little bit overpowered, I think that you can deal with Zed as long as you play properly. If you play mages against Zed rush seekers armguard. This item gives more armor than Zed will ever be able to negate. Also keep in mind that Zed's W is on a 22 seconds cooldown and he maxes it last. Whenever Zed wastes his W look to harass him. He won't be able to do anything about it.

I know that but i mean you get my point here, right? If they planning on nerfing assassins there 2 clearly running around and people hate.

ZackTheWaffleMan1 votes

They barely nerfed Talon and Wukong.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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They barely nerfed Talon and Wukong.

Nerf is a nerf, atleast for clearing part yet zed clearing wave is very well better than both of them.

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

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Nerf is a nerf, atleast for clearing part yet zed clearing wave is very well better than both of them.

At which particular point in the game? Because I've got a good feeling about what you're going to say.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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At which particular point in the game? Because I've got a good feeling about what you're going to say.

They said it target their mid game wave clear. xD

Summonah123691 votes

I just wish I didn't have to deal with getting one shotted by Zeds everywhere.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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I just wish I didn't have to deal with getting one shotted by Zeds everywhere.

Well 1 shot is 1 shot from all champions lol

Hyquiem1 votes

Realize your windows,

Summonah123691 votes

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Realize your windows,

My windows...?

destroyer227191 votes

Zed used to be weak as shit because you can item 3140 his ulti. Evelynn can be op but good luck in team fights.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Zed used to be weak as shit because you can item 3140 his ulti. Evelynn can be op but good luck in team fights.

Urgot R right now is garbage that can be counter by item 3140

gabetheguy1 votes

eve's burst is delayed af and easily predictable.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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eve's burst is delayed af and easily predictable.

Not if you got caught into her charm.

gabetheguy1 votes

then don't get caught by it. it gives you almost 2 seconds to GTFO AND if you haven't done that, it gives you a literal indicator of where she is.

Hyquiem1 votes

Lmao they buffed zed for bs it’s like they don’t understand zed was fine before these stupid buffs and now he’s “meta” hurts me and other zed mains.

Crimson Zeppelin1 votes

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Lmao they buffed zed for bs it’s like they don’t understand zed was fine before these stupid buffs and now he’s “meta” hurts me and other zed mains.

I still remember when Zed was randomly given "compensation and quality of life" buffs. It sort of makes you question what the quality of life is at this point.

Hyquiem1 votes

Indeed,

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Lmao they buffed zed for bs it’s like they don’t understand zed was fine before these stupid buffs and now he’s “meta” hurts me and other zed mains.

lol

Bears Dont Care1 votes

Eve must land her q to deal burst, and she needs a rabsdons to really be a good assassin due to the nature of her E. I

get you feel sore but wukong has true stealth. A true gap closer, and is a much stronger assassination early on compared to eve.

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