I have the best idea to fix Lee. EVER. Or possibly the worst....

Kowe The Ewok·Jan 5, 2015·57 votes·3,213 views

So, Lee is blind, amrite? So how about Riot disables automatic wayfinding for him?!

So, if Lee clicks behind a wall - he doesn't run around it: He runs against it. (And stops)

41 Comments

TheKingDodoJan 5, 201551 votes

Nerf backfires, LeeSin bugs out and walks through walls instead. gg riot decides to keep bug because #BigLC$Play$

SmokinSickStyleJan 5, 201514 votes

Walls, because he's Lee Sin the Blind Monk, he gives 0 FUCKS about walls.

LALALAL CAN'T SEE CAN'T CARE.

CindikleJan 5, 201517 votes

Lee runs into a wall Complains to Riot Riot instructs him how to walk around trees and climb hills Lee can now move though walls.

Demonsolder21Jan 6, 20152 votes

360D3GR3SSJan 5, 20156 votes

I wish every champion was like this. It's so tedious to click as close as possible to a wall in a panic situation.

GaleWinUnleashedJan 5, 201513 votes

I kinda wish that automatic pathing was optional, but on by default.

360D3GR3SSJan 5, 20152 votes

Agreed, optional would be best.

Chaos OpenJan 6, 20156 votes

The vision should look like Rek underground. All you can see is Lee, everything else is black.

PheroJan 6, 20152 votes

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The vision should look like Rek underground. All you can see is Lee, everything else is black.

This. So when he Q's someone he doesn't know who he hit or how much health they have. NOW he takes skill.

iamthegoatofwarJan 6, 20151 votes

This gives me an Idea use Rek sai's tremor sense at a shorter range but still decent while having rek sai's vision range while burrowed. Now here's what we can start doing with him.

His Q doesn't reveal targets when he hits them 1st cast. 2nd cast however upon reaching and striking the target He deals damage and gets true sight of THAT target.

His W is an issue. I like the Idea of a shield on lee, but he should no longer be able to just wall jump with it. His 2nd cast can be somewhat Like sion's shield but instead of instant damage, it will raise His attack damage by a flat amount based on how much was left in the shield.

His E can stay relatively the same however the 1st cast no longer instantly reveals stealthed champs, however it does do a tremor pulse like rek sai's vision for as long as they are able to be hit by the 2nd cast. The 2nd cast will reveal and snare the target for .5 seconds and slow them for 3 seconds.

His R can Be kind of like a buff to his tremor vision. Passively It will increase his vision range by a small amount (not the tremor vision I mean his like 100 sight range vision. It's active will Make his tremor sense stronger for 10 seconds allowing enemies within a Fairly large range to be sensed (think warwicks E rank 5 here.) and an ally walking by can see them even if they are stealthed or in brush due to lee's ability to sense them.

Probably needs work but Still could be intresting.

Terra D SerphJan 6, 20156 votes

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TheRainInSpainJan 6, 20151 votes

Four teammates on voice comms tell him where they are and ping for enemies. Lolz.

Terra D SerphJan 16, 20151 votes

The map is black. Pings show up as nothing. You are blind.

TheRainInSpainJan 17, 20151 votes

Arbitrary limits because technology exists to nullify your argument that blind people can't see ...

Tsk tsk, just admit that it can be done and be the better man, instead of being a river in Africa.

For all we know, in League's lore, there is magic that allows the brain to discern visual input, meaning you could no eyes in the first place and still see things as if you had eyes. There's human technology in the real world that does that. It's very Star Trekky, but it does exist, and some blind people are legally allowed to drive their cars because of it.

Terra D SerphJan 18, 20151 votes

You're a nuisance. I'd ask you to explain to me where this technology comes from, but I honestly don't give a damn.

Have a nice day, you will not be hearing from me again.

TheRainInSpainJan 19, 20151 votes

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/06/13/cov.bionic.eye/

That was in 2002.

"A Canadian farmer and father of eight, Jens lost his sight 18 years ago in an accident. Now he's able to navigate through rooms, find doors and even drive a car to some degree."

The procedural was illegal in the US back then, so it was done in Portugal. The cost of producing the machine and training the individual is about 70 grand.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/blind-man-sees-for-first-time-with-bionic-eye/

This was 2014.

"On Oct. 1, Hester became the seventh person in the U.S. to receive an implantable Argus II Retinal Prosthesis Device, also known as the bionic eye. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the device in February 2013 for people with rare, degenerative eye diseases.

The device doesn't restore Hester's sight in the traditional sense, but in conjunction with specially-equipped glasses, allows him to see light, meaning he can make out contours and silhouettes of objects. Hester is now not only able to navigate a room and find a door with more ease ..."

Same Machine. The machine is called the Argus II Retinal Prosthesis System.

Does not give true color vision, though, but because you can see the difference between light and dark, it isn't much of a stretch between this and color blind people. And color blind people do play League of Legends; Riot wouldn't spend huge amounts of money on making a color blind system if they didn't have a significant color blind population.

JakethenightJan 6, 20151 votes

His abilities and attacks give only Lee Sin vision of the enemy for 3 seconds. I think the resonance of his attacks could allow him to hear where things are.

8bj2yMEanNJan 5, 20155 votes

THAT IS THE BEST LEE SIN CHANGE IDEA EVER

Kuroi86Jan 5, 20153 votes

Walrus

JakethenightJan 6, 20152 votes

Walrus

Deep Terror NamiJan 5, 20152 votes

rofl

RetroRage96Jan 5, 20152 votes

Haha definitely! This is perfect! They should also make his ult a skillshot.

PæanJan 5, 20151 votes

But wouldnt that possibly let him ulti kick more than one person? Imagine him ward hoping or flashing behind the ADC AND the APC, now they both get eaten :(

kijikJan 6, 20151 votes

you do realize he can do that as it stands? it does same damage to everyone the kicked person connects with, so just line them up, and lol 1k nukes for all

PæanJan 6, 20151 votes

His ulti knocks other people up or to the side, what I meant was that he would launch both people the full distance, which would make it crazier. Sorry I wasn't clear xD

DeliothJan 7, 20151 votes

Y'know they can make skillshots only affect the first person hit, right?

PæanJan 7, 20151 votes

Yes absolutely, I would be concerned with a bug and it acting like a Lux snare and hitting 2 people, and the whole skillshot thing might be awesome allowing Lee Sin to completely wiff ults. Would be the funniest thing to hear a HI-KU! and nothing happen xD

Terra D SerphJan 6, 20152 votes

How about...we give Lee Sin his eyesight back?

I'm sure the visual overload would nerf him for the next month, your screen is white for the next 30 minutes. But after that he'd be the most overpowered champ in the game, he'd be able to see EVERYTHING.

Chromatic EagleJan 6, 20152 votes

Lissandra is blind, unless she can't use her move over a wall, should she be restricted as well?

DeliothJan 7, 20151 votes

But Lissandra hasn't completely dominated any scene for the entire time of her release.

Chromatic EagleJan 7, 20151 votes

That's the point. People are only doing this because at this point they want anything done to him.

DeliothJan 7, 20151 votes

Yeah, that's kinda what a nerf is. People are just coming up with new innovations on the idea of a nerf because Rito will obviously not nerf his numbers or take something out of his kit- that's also been asked for for a long time.

Chromatic EagleJan 7, 20151 votes

But if people are trying to justify it based on lore, without thinking about how you can apply that logic to others, it reeks of a double standard.