Now i miss Banner cause all of that Fiddel , Hemi, Ziggs, Sawin, Vlad, etc mages bot lane combos

ValiantKiller··11 votes·5,692 views

God how much i miss Banner right now where you could just legit stop that stupid harsh pushing from cancer mages combo such as the one running bot lane right now. Ziggs Let me zone your adc out of farm and push your tower down easily. Heimerdinger Keep dreaming of farm and towers. Fiddlesticks I will swear any type of combo you want to play bot lane anyway. Vladimir What is backing for base ? Swain Who need adc when you can melt squishy and be tanky mage. And same apply to many mages, people was talking lately about how mages are in poor position and how their items are ruined them yet people tend to ignore this combos that running bot lane with current items and taking over it. Yes i agree "Some" mages are in bad position cause mage items change but god there many mages right now that just straight performing better than anything else cause Banner got removed and there no early counter for them special from ADC view point.

And now don't even come and tell me to nerf assassin cause right now, the only counter to that mage combos is assassins special early in game otherwise you doomed to see your towers taken down one by one.

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Ranmaru2 votes

ziggs and heim are not good its like saying ADC ISNT A BAD CLASS KAISA AND DRAVEN ARE GOOD!!! TANKS ARENT BAD THERES MALPHITE AND MUNDO

ValiantKiller1 votes

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ziggs and heim are not good its like saying ADC ISNT A BAD CLASS KAISA AND DRAVEN ARE GOOD!!! TANKS ARENT BAD THERES MALPHITE AND MUNDO

Well that what people say that is the whole mage class is suck right now and divers are better

saltran1 votes

Don't forget when they say that Zhonyas is a bad item

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Don't forget when they say that Zhonyas is a bad item

Yah bad special when you get stuck into 3 towers of hemi and die.

OtterlyLost2 votes

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ziggs and heim are not good its like saying ADC ISNT A BAD CLASS KAISA AND DRAVEN ARE GOOD!!! TANKS ARENT BAD THERES MALPHITE AND MUNDO

Mundo isn't a tank. He's a juggernaut. Js.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Mundo isn't a tank. He's a juggernaut. Js.

Honestly right now you won't even know what is the difference from what, all roles are mixed. Kaisa play like hardcore APC over been ADC. Nocturne MonkeyKing Diana Ekko They are Fighters/Divers yet played as Assassins. DrMundo acting like pure tank. etc

Paroe1 votes

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Honestly right now you won't even know what is the difference from what, all roles are mixed. Kaisa play like hardcore APC over been ADC. Nocturne MonkeyKing Diana Ekko They are Fighters/Divers yet played as Assassins. DrMundo acting like pure tank. etc

A diver is just an assassin who isnt hyper mobile.

Also, ekko IS an assassin. Flat. Hes a skirmisher type - meant to go in, pop, then go out for cooldowns before going back in.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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A diver is just an assassin who isnt hyper mobile.

Also, ekko IS an assassin. Flat. Hes a skirmisher type - meant to go in, pop, then go out for cooldowns before going back in.

Nah the game put 4 of them as divers, and divers should be the hyper between assassin and juggernaut they are the middle ground of semi tanky semi damage.

Paroe1 votes

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Nah the game put 4 of them as divers, and divers should be the hyper between assassin and juggernaut they are the middle ground of semi tanky semi damage.

... No? Divers are champions with an assassination pattern who dont generally have a reliable get out mechanic.

The reason they build bruiser is because they dive; they need the extra defenses. Or at least they used to need them, before turrets shot peanuts.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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... No? Divers are champions with an assassination pattern who dont generally have a reliable get out mechanic.

The reason they build bruiser is because they dive; they need the extra defenses. Or at least they used to need them, before turrets shot peanuts.

Still according to game they are different from assassin cause they mostly more tanky and got no way to escape fights easily.

PrinceOfStorms1 votes

Mundo is not a tank. Tanks have low damage, high disruption, high durability. Juggernauts have high damage, low disruption, high durability. Mundo doesn't have much disruption (the slow from his Q is pretty negligible in the long run), and he's closer to Illaoi or Darius in terms of how he plays than Maokai or Sejuani.

Ayzev1 votes

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Kaisa play builds like hardcore on-hit APC DrMundo acting building like pure tank.

Actual APCs aren't anywhere near as reliant on autos, and pure tanks disrupt their opponents with CC, not damage.

hhaavviikk2 votes

we cna have banner of command back, granted there will also be an AD version that makes them immune to champion auto attacks to even it out.

''but but that's all ad got'' have you tried taking down a banner of commanded minion as a mage before? you can stand there for like a minute just aa'ing it, it's dreadful, besides abilities for AD would still work then, there you go perfect

ValiantKiller1 votes

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we cna have banner of command back, granted there will also be an AD version that makes them immune to champion auto attacks to even it out.

''but but that's all ad got'' have you tried taking down a banner of commanded minion as a mage before? you can stand there for like a minute just aa'ing it, it's dreadful, besides abilities for AD would still work then, there you go perfect

Yes i know how it painful but either they buff towers or gutt this champions

remakoro1 votes

My fucking bot lost tower to Heimerdinger + Ziggs at 4:50 not so long ago... They played standard ADC + enchanter.

I really want banner back... In any version. Complete magic immunity or just dmg reduction. I dont care.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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My fucking bot lost tower to Heimerdinger + Ziggs at 4:50 not so long ago... They played standard ADC + enchanter.

I really want banner back... In any version. Complete magic immunity or just dmg reduction. I dont care.

^ anything that to stop that shit.

LTK KoRo1 votes

I don't want to be mean, but banner wouldn't stop them from draining fun during laning phase.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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I don't want to be mean, but banner wouldn't stop them from draining fun during laning phase.

It would stop their aggressive push over towers

remakoro1 votes

It might stop people from picking such combos in the first place. Would you dare to go so heavily on AP vs possible Banner on other team? Yes? Then face consequences.

Ayzev1 votes

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Would you dare to go so heavily on AP vs possible Banner on other team?

That implies that other lanes can't go AD

Anu3isII1 votes

And how can you stop people from rushing it Top/Mid based on the match-up? Before Banner was removed, champions like Lulu and Galio rushed it and built Support/Tank items and just ignored their opponent.

Their only form of interaction in lane was pushing with a buffed up minion and sometimes roam to protect their allies when taking objectives, nothing else.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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And how can you stop people from rushing it Top/Mid based on the match-up? Before Banner was removed, champions like Lulu and Galio rushed it and built Support/Tank items and just ignored their opponent.

Their only form of interaction in lane was pushing with a buffed up minion and sometimes roam to protect their allies when taking objectives, nothing else.

I know i just making meme about how it used to be able to shut that cancer down.

BrightWîngs1 votes

I hate playing against them bot too but banner was so anti fun to the point you had minions wining the game for you

ValiantKiller1 votes

And now things more anti fun when tower gone by 4min

BrightWîngs1 votes

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And now things more anti fun when tower gone by 4min

yeah like I said it does kinda suck but I play this game to actually play it not have some minions play it for me

ValiantKiller1 votes

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yeah like I said it does kinda suck but I play this game to actually play it not have some minions play it for me

So you are happy with what is going on with bot lane right now ?

BrightWîngs1 votes

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So you are happy with what is going on with bot lane right now ?

no not really I rather play the champs ive been playing i legit dont even play the role that much anymore i swapped to jungle and top but banner was way more anti fun imo

ValiantKiller1 votes

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no not really I rather play the champs ive been playing i legit dont even play the role that much anymore i swapped to jungle and top but banner was way more anti fun imo

Ohh i used to be jungle main but thanks to that stupid crab jungle change, i moved to top/mid mostly :/

Malak1 votes

It's funny because mages mid/top/jg these days is trolling it seems

except taliyah (off the top of my head)

ValiantKiller1 votes

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It's funny because mages mid/top/jg these days is trolling it seems

except taliyah (off the top of my head)

Yah mages work more in bot lane now xD

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