Think about it. Tanks literally have jack shit in runes that can resist the current damage boost from runes. Get PTA'd then electrocuted by every champ in existence. No wave clear. (Galio has 2 abilities in Q, which allowed him into play)
Accursêd5 votesits not excessive damage that is in the game, its excessive TRUE DAMAGE
the moment conqueror was released was the moment all tanks became worse overall, not even mentioning the fact that a champion like vayne is BLIND PICKABLE because of how many steroids she has on her kit
DuskDaUmbreon4 votesIt's fucking soloQ, people have always and will always blind pick every single champion ever made and it will always be viable to do so.
Accursêd3 votesthat's literally wrong unless you're playing in silver and below
ZephyrDrake2 votesthat's literally wrong unless you're playing in silver and below
People blind pick everything. It's not a low elo thing. People in challenger do it all the time. So no, It's not wrong. You severely underestimate how much people actually counterpick and do it properly.
Accursêd2 votes[deleted]
ZephyrDrake1 votesDo you actually play this game? Your information is
Unreliable because your vision of high elo is deadass YouTube and Twitch
Skewed because you’re low elo
Inconsistent because you’ve played 1 game in the last month (see https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ZephyrDrake )
Do YOU play this game? I watch plenty of high elo players stream. I could play literally zero games a year and how much people blind pick literally everything is not going to change. Now do you have some actual data on people actually knowing how to counterpick the higher up you go? Not "feelings" or what you "hope" is to be the case. Actual facts, since from everything I've seen that isn't the case.
boricCentaur13 votesName them? O wait you probably can't.
and don't say conqueror since the champions that take it should win vs tanks and the true damage from it is not enough to actually stop tanks from surviving laning too.
Also I can list more champions that can tanks faster then basically anyone with true damage.
Accursêd4 votesconqueror, cheap shot, vayne, chogath, camille, master yi, garen, nunu, amumu, ahri, zoe, reksai, kayle, red buff, red smite, blue smite, ignite
there is way too much true damage in the game
true damage as an idea is stupid to begin with
also youre silver 4
boricCentaur12 votesWow you're really just hating to hate and no other reason.
Look at those champions then say how many are good then say how many do well vs tanks and you are left with vayne,yi and they don't even kill tanks the best.
Also 8 champions out of 143 WOW 5% of champions have true damage YEP THAT'S A PROBLEM lol.
Like no one takes cheap shot and nunu doesn't do true damage.
Also you fucking did not put all of them showing you have 0 clue what you're talking about.
Like why are you hating something that is not a problem?
Accursêd3 votesnunu bite does true damage only to creeps, my bad on that one
its not about the number of champions, and I understand nobody takes cheap shot
my problems lie with the biggest users
conq, vayne, yi, reksai, kayle
and if you tell me for a second that vayne is not the best champion at killing tanks in the game then first of all you're a filthy liar, and second of all you've never played vayne into a tank or vice versa
and when I said you're silver 4, I said it because you don't even understand why true damage is a problem
boricCentaur12 votesI showed by conqueror is not a problem, kayle is not even good. Reksai true damage is barely in his hit he has it his ult and only sometimes how is that a problem?,
Like is it a problem when only very few champions are good with it and NEWSFLASH the true damage is not the reason there good.
Kai'Sa,kog,kayle,on hit jax, on hit shyvana. Those are just some champions that can easily kill tanks faster then vayne. True damage is actually weaker then mixed damage since there is a larger amount of it in a kit. Vayne is not a tank killer she is closer to a assassin and if you EVEN played a tank once vs her you would know that.
Like go can actually play some tanks since you know nothing about them.
Also I just ignored your ranked thing since one I basically never play ranked for a number of reasons and two I rely on my argument and I use proof and explanations to win not just say "o your a lower ranked then me that means you don't understand the problem" that's is a stupid reason. Like why being it up again I was trying to ignore it but nope you bring it up a 2nd time.
Accursêd2 votesYou have shown me that you don't know what champions kits do, that you don't understand how many champions that conqueror busted, or what about champions makes them strong. I play a lot of tanks. In an elo where people actually know somewhat how to play the game. The reason you think tanks are fine is because you're playing with and against people who don't really know how to play the game at all. Stop trying to say rank isn't a problem when it so obviously is.
boricCentaur12 votesMAN HOW USING NO PROOF BUT RANKED AS ARGUMENT LOL. You have 0 clue what you're talking about what's why you brought up ranked since you have no real arguments.
Here is what you said basically "Conqueror is broken reeeeeeee and I'm a higher rank then you reeeee" that's it. You give 0 counter point, 0 proof, and no reasons,
Stop trying to act like you're right, you're not if you were you would give a argument but you're not.
Give counter point or just stop trying to say you're right.
Accursêd3 votesyou have zero proof that its not broken lmao
boricCentaur12 votesThe champions using it are supposed to win vs tanks in long trades which it does. It does not make tanks unplayable since it takes time to stack.
like GIVE A COUNTER POINT PLS I have given many points you have said nothing about and I'm still waiting for your counter points its almost like you have no clue what your talking about.
Tahminatrix 4 votesThe only thing harming tanks right now is black cleaver being bought regardless of if they exist or not. Whats the point in getting the enemy team to build an armor shred item if it has amazing stats that can be abused with lethality in order to delete squishies.
Nhika2 votesI literally just played a game as GANGPLANK vs WUKONG.
I would touch the wave, get electrocuted and he would walk off.
Imagine playing a non-ranged top laner into this, literally absolutely nothing a tank can do in the top lane.
SuicidePlank4 votesI literally just played a game as GANGPLANK vs WUKONG.
I would touch the wave, get electrocuted and he would walk off.
Imagine playing a non-ranged top laner into this, literally absolutely nothing a tank can do in the top lane.
GP can win this matchup fairly easy, you just have to play smart and not get cheesed. Also GP is no Tank an he is supposed to be very, very weak in lane, as, you know, every late game character should be.
ZephyrDrake6 votesI literally just played a game as GANGPLANK vs WUKONG.
I would touch the wave, get electrocuted and he would walk off.
Imagine playing a non-ranged top laner into this, literally absolutely nothing a tank can do in the top lane.
Ok... so your thread is about tanks not being viable and then your very next post is about a carry champion and not a tank? You aren't doing yourself any favors
Pika Fox1 votesIf youre dying instantly as a tank, youre playing the game wrong.
Kazamaru1 votesIt's ironic that you post this as, at this moment, on op.gg 6 of the 10 highest winrate champions in ranked are tanks.(Amu, Taric, Voli, Rammus, Yorick & Garen.) (4 tanks in top 10 in plat, 3 in diamond, 2 in Master+ so in the highest bracket it actually becomes what you expect with a balance from the different position.))
Light Burner1 votesTahm, Rammus, Amumu, Thresh, Naut all S tier "Tanks will never come back"