Pyke Ult Hit Box is too Forgiving

BrightWîngs·Nov 28, 2018·3 votes·1,469 views

Its hardly an X its more just an actual square

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11 Comments

RekseeNov 28, 20181 votes

you just can't see the icon on the floor so it looks weird, but Leona is on top of the icon. Besides I miss it all the time because me stoopid.

BrightWîngsNov 28, 20181 votes

I know but if you really look in wasnt in it you can tell how far away i am from one of the lines of the X

iiGazeiiNov 28, 20181 votes

Target walks back into the ult, standing right on top of the ground indicator "Totally broken hitbox, basically a square"

BrightWîngsNov 28, 20181 votes

did you watch it? i didnt walk back into it zoom in if you need to I want in it

iiGazeiiNov 28, 20181 votes

Yes, I watched it and rewatched it to make sure I wasn't making a fool of myself. The Leona that died (you, I'm assuming), was standing right on top of one of the lines of the X, perfectly within its bounds. A graphical error isn't showing the area on the ground, since the center of the cast area is in the river and "below" the grass of the midlane, but if you look at your position relative to the skull on the ground under Pyke, you can see that you are well within the bounds of the ult. You were even out of it, and moved back into it.

You were 100%, without a doubt, inside that line.

HotarµNov 28, 20181 votes

The indicator is messed up because of the heightened ground from mid to river. Leona also has a huge hitbox, and the hitbox (at her feet, where every champion's hitbox is) is directly near the ult.

As a Pyke main who's missed plenty of easy-looking ults, the hitbox is anything but forgiving.

BrightWîngsNov 28, 20181 votes

Ive been hit by the same spot countless times on several different champions

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20181 votes

TLDR: yes it hit you

... i dont see how that could have possibly missed leona.

i mean yeah the visual indicator didnt appear of it going to land in the raised section, didnt appear.. and thats a bug

but the actually X VERY clearly hit leona

and keeping in mind.. i came into this thread WANTING to agree with you that his hitbox is messed up.. ANYTHING to get a pyke nerf.

but seriously that was about the most obvious ulti landing on a target i have seen..

i would literally be be screaming in all chat "omg how am i alive... how the fuck did that miss me" if i was leona and that missed me

i mean if i stop it at 6.79 second its pretty freaking obvious it hit her.

i dont even know what to say... thats just flat out did NOT remotely by any stretch of the imagination miss the Leona ...

i normally have to tell people that the hitbox very rarely matches the actual projectile and that as long as the hitboxes collide the actual visuals dont have to for it to count as a "hit"

many people show things of a skillshot visual BARELY mins but if u extend the hitbox its clear in ange of the champions hitbox

in some rare cases its very close and hard to tell but i would say 50:50 if they were going to get hit by it or not.

MANY times i see visual that very obvious go through the center of the champion model but count as a "miss" which is about 20 more often than i see the a post of somone saying they "X missedf them and it ACTAULLY DID.

THAT is the rare thing. havign someone complain about getting hit by a skillshot and the skillshot ACTUALLY not hitting them. THAT i have only ever seen 2-4 times EVER. ( at least outside of river hight differential and Jhin w, those are notoriously bad and misleading)

I VERY FREQUENTLY see skillshots that "clear hit" the target count as "miss"

BrightWîngsNov 28, 20181 votes

youre not looking im not saying since the part of the X didnt show up im saying i was in this part of the X <-----it should not have hit me

SwiftKitten88Nov 28, 20181 votes

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youre not looking im not saying since the part of the X didnt show up im saying i was in this part of the X <-----it should not have hit me

... a visual bug based on high differential, cannot change the coding of the actual HITBOX of the skill.

only ONe of the lux ultimate during the protobelt Lux ulti bug was live

the visuals are only there for us humans. they are completely irrelevant to the actual hit-boxes.

a visual bug is not going to change the hitbox of the skill.

should that arm of the X been visible on the higher ground... yes

was the arm still there even without with that arm visually missing? OF COURSE

it even appears when he actually LANDS the ulti.. the only thing visually wrong was the warning indicator.

i thought i did a good enough job explaing this in my first post.. what the person sees... IS COMPLETELY IRREVERENT to what is actually happening. its just the game trying to display what is happening so we can actaully play it.

the Ornn ulti bug also had the same issue the VISUAL: was wrong.. the actaul skill did not change.

the better the visual matches the more the game feels like your really there in it. but its still a game... and there are different skins animations.. and visuals for every champion.. just becuase a "visual" donest "perfect match" does change the underlying code

BrightWîngsNov 28, 20181 votes

So what you're saying is I'm being lied to? thats all i can really see out of that then again I haven't gone to bed yet so take that as you will.