Kaisa's build path and scaling needs to be revised.

Hayaishi2·10/15/2019, 2:26:14 AM·36 votes·12,779 views

There's a reason why Varus can't have a strong poke, DPS and hybrid damage in a single build path, because it'd be fucking overpowered. Imagine lethality Varus breaking AS cap and destroying your tanks with %HP damage while reaching 30% CDR. This is pretty much what Kaisa does.

Gut her already, this champion has been in every single pro game since her release because she has no weaknesses, it isn't only about being able to build zhonyas.

Kaisa should have to choose between being an assassin or high DPS lategame hypercarry not both, get to work Riot, it has been enough of putting up with this garbage design.

33 Comments

Ventira10/15/2019, 4:23:10 AM17 votes

I honestly can't think of a single item that isn't good on Kai'sa.

Except maybe Liandry's.

Goopy Amethyst10/15/2019, 2:38:30 AM14 votes

But dude, gotta sell those KDA and Arcadia skins somehow

iiGazeii10/15/2019, 4:38:49 AM5 votes

Honestly, I'd be all for this. I'd rather have distinct build paths with palpable differences than being able to build basically anything and make it work. It'd be awesome if the build you took could nearly change your role entirely.

Thefrostyviking10/15/2019, 10:02:49 AM5 votes

Varus has a significant thing that Kai´sa does not though.

That ult of his, combined with how it does a lot of max HP damage if a second ability comes in after, especially if going AP.

I´ve seen the shit that happens when a Varus gets away with going some botrk-rageblade-nashor-rest ap, he melts tanks in a heartbeat, he oneshots squishies with a R-Q and he has the range to stay safe.

Kai´sa? Her Q only does damage on isolated targets, her W while having tremendous range is still very slow and her actually effective range to deal damage is short, very short.

And she doesnt have a semi permanent attackspeed boost in lane or in teamfights.

Now why she remains more viable is because she is better at staying safe thanks to that ult of hers that allows near instant repositioning which is a priceless tool for marksmen, having more range doesnt save one´s ass when that assassin comes diving, only having blinks and something like her ult does.

Which is why Varus and many others arent popular in proplay unless the threat of divers and assassins is very, very low.

xelaker10/15/2019, 3:46:34 AM5 votes

Sound logic isn't gonna beat sales revenue

SiG DxD10/15/2019, 4:25:17 PM3 votes

i asked for kaisa nerfs they banned me and removed each of my kaisa post

Zero Shingetsu10/15/2019, 4:31:07 AM1 votes

My Kai'Sa builds tank items, so I don't have this problem.

Sinister Anubis10/15/2019, 11:46:41 PM1 votes

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There's a reason why Varus can't have a strong poke, DPS and hybrid damage in a single build path, because it'd be fucking overpowered. Imagine lethality Varus breaking AS cap and destroying your tanks with %HP damage while reaching 30% CDR. This is pretty much what Kaisa does.

Gut her already, this champion has been in every single pro game since her release because she has no weaknesses, it isn't only about being able to build zhonyas.

Kaisa should have to choose between being an assassin or high DPS lategame hypercarry not both, get to work Riot, it has been enough of putting up with this garbage design.

Well to be fair kaisa cant poke long range that also goes threw minions. Imagine being able to stay super safe poke long range and wave clear with 1 ability. That's what varus does. Also varus when fed breaking attack speed cap will just whipe and entire team in seconds.

Heos0010/17/2019, 1:58:46 AM1 votes

At this point of the game design, every champion should be an assassin and "high dps lategame hypercarries" should stop existing. People just overrates her so much because they can't braindead walk and kill her with R since she can do the same to you, shit, even when i play any other roles that aren't bot and theres a Kai'Sa in the game, i never see her as a priority or big treat if she isn't feed or has muramana completed, even some pro players struggles to have a +50% win rate with her since she can die so easily by simple AoE dmg. The same thing happened to ezreal, people can't kill him easily with R, people complains about him even when he has shitty win rate and is hard to carry with him. At this pont Riot should rework the entire Adc role and champions around a basic attack amplifier instead of one shotty RNG crit and give them actually agency into the game. Btw i haven't seen any Kai'Sa's in a while in my games lmao, im not even a Kai'Sa player or something so, down votes come to me :d

NaughtyWord10/17/2019, 2:34:23 AM1 votes

Kaisa has

Magic Damage Buff %HP long-range reveal bonus movement speed 2500 teleport across the map invisibility Some of the best AD scalings for an ADC especially on her W. Some of the best AP scalings for an ADC.

You could combine 2 other ADCs and not get that much in one kit, it's dumb, it's overloaded, and play or permaban. No 2 ways about it.