it's fun right? having 3k hp, 150 mr, cc'ed for years, not being able to cast a single spell in teamfight and then get deleted by syndra ulti doing 1327 damage in 0.5 seconds.
can't wait for edge of the night to go on live i swear, thanks riot.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo9 voteshmm 150 mr where 30 flat magic pen reduces it to 120 then another 35% reduction from void staff 120-42 = 78 effective mr
and your a slow melee champ who is easily kite able
hmm and a mage has full build 40 mins in
hmm
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
Ahristocats3 votes%magic pene is applied before flat armor pene
yeah i'm a slow melee, easily kitable, so the balance logic tells that i also must be a piece of paper that can die in 1 second
that totally makes sens i agree
oSEXYPLATYPUSo4 votesok correction 150 x 35% is 52 reduction so bringing you from 150 -52 to 98-30 brings you to 68 effective mr
and if they do a spell that does 600 damage and you have 3000 hp so 600 magic damage -68 mr = 532 magic damage
3000hp-532 damage would be 2468 hp on one hit?
Ahristocats4 votes[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MYZwvR5L,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T17:38:36.568+0000)
ok correction 150 x 35% is 52 reduction so bringing you from 150 -52 to 98-30 brings you to 68 effective mr
and if they do a spell that does 600 damage and you have 3000 hp so 600 magic damage -68 mr = 532 magic damage
3000hp-532 damage would be 2468 hp on one hit?
that's not how magic resistance works m8
oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votesyou sure ? cuz that make alot of sense on how you got blown up
Ahristocats1 votesyeah i'm sure, magic resistance reduce magic damage by a %, and mages still burst down bruisers.
cause it's balanced you know.
Handy Sandy 2 votes[{quoted}](name=playfive Koopska,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MYZwvR5L,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T17:43:02.339+0000)
yeah i'm sure, magic resistance reduce magic damage by a %, and mages still burst down bruisers.
cause it's balanced you know.
Don't bruisers fall off at that point of the game, and where mages are at their strongest?
Best princess EU1 votesjuggernaut patch made it so bruisers no longer falls off in late game, with black cleaver armor pene, and titanic hydra converting hp into damage.
that, but hydra became trash with nerfs.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 voteswell yea cuz 133 champs with an infinite amount of runes/masteries/items possibilities its such an easy game to balance where all champs do the same amount of damage and all champs have a 49%-51% win rate
if you can figure that out can you also solve cancer, aids, world peace, energy crisis , water shortage , global warming, over population, world hunger , and the poverty problem that effects nearly 80% of the world?, and cold fusion ?
no pressure
Sahn Uzal1 votesSyndra was not fullbuild.
Vistha Kai1 votesYup, she was merely at 5 and a half item.
Handy Sandy 4 votesSyndra's ult lasts for like 2 seconds not .5 and she has to kite you for a few seconds before going all in like that. Ziggs, Zyra, Orianna, Ahri, etc can do the same thing it's not uncommon. Get a 
or stack health
Sona x Rubick1 votesit's actually one second source: champion spotlight
Handy Sandy 1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sona x Rubick,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MYZwvR5L,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-10-23T17:30:14.696+0000)
it's actually one second source: champion spotlight
well i guess it depends on how many spheres she already has out
TyrekGoldenspear3 votesNot enough MR 40 mins in.
Also not enough health.
Also Syndra can kite you for days and keep the Dunkmaster at bay.
That is what your mages are for. Also just because you are the Dunkmaster doesn't mean you can kill every single squishy on your screen. They can and will fight back.
This should keep you in the Dunkmaster vibe though. Because once you get your dunks going, it's good night for the squishies. https://66.media.tumblr.com/94995c7459591ecd02b89ccd63523847/tumblr_nk2vn8bKjw1sdk5d7o1_r1_500.gif
Ahristocats4 voteswhere do you see me asking for squishies to get on my screen? are you blind? this thread is made to explain how mages are broken and can burst down a bruiser like a squishy and how riot is right to bring edge of the night.
TyrekGoldenspear5 votesThe point of the post was basically to tell you that Darius is prone to kiting, which is what she did.
Another point was that Syndra was on your screen. That's how she killed you. You wanted to kill her. She said lol nope and blew her ult on you with likely setup becuase a panic ult with no setup shouldn't kill you.
I told you why she killed you. I completely understood you post. As a mage and juggernaut player I don't mind the new item. But mages are no more broken than juggernauts or any other class. Just in different ways.
Sahn Uzal2 votesNo, she could kite him so well because she had a 
which should NOT be in Syndra's item build...
Vistha Kai1 votesWrong, Rylai's would be the Icing on the cake in this case.
Between W slow, E knockback and stun, Flash and Ghost, there is no way Darius would be able to get remotely close to "cast a single spell before dying".
TyrekGoldenspear1 votesAre there better options?
I mean, I dont see why not considering she has 0 cast time on abilites so Rylais makes kiting even easier for her.
Sahn Uzal2 votesShe's a burst mage who wants the big damage items. Rylais is an item that SHOULD be build on the utility focussed champions.
is a user.
is a Abuser.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votescrystal (rylais crystal scepter ) meth is a hard drug to get off of, im told one use of it and your hooked
Stars Shaper3 votesSo you've being oneshotted while kited to death by a skill that does 1300ish damage while having 3k HP.
I really see no flaws in your writings.
CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes3k hp and 150 mr is an effective 2.5 * 3000 = 7500 hp against mages
with 
while under 5 stacks of 
you'll have an effective ((150-40- 25) - 35%) - 30 = 25.5
liandries will do a modified % current hp damage.. it will attempt to do 11% in all under ideal conditions but with 25.5 mr
the modifier will be 100/(100+25.5) = 0.796812749
so 100/(100+25.5) * .11 = 0.08764940239
3000 - (3000 * 0.08764940239) = 2737.05179283 or about 2700 hp after liandrys in the worst case scenario
2700 with 25 MR is an effective 2700 * 1.25 = 3375 effective HP against magic
Even in the worst case there isn't much reason to believe that darius is getting one shot under these conditions unless he was just being stupid or thinking he could get away with nothing more than flat stats and no item effects in 2016
D357R0Y3R2 votesi love how board takes a thread and then change the subject of this thread
op's point isn't that bruisers are being kited by mages, but that mages kills bruisers too quickly
Big Lincoln2 voteswhy do you only have 3k hp at 40 minutes? you should have at least 3.5k on any decent bruiser build, and you need more MR than that
assuming she's the biggest threat 
and 
/ 
is necessity, maw even more so next patch now that it's gonna give CDR
i agree gut mages, bring back bruiser meta
Ahristocats1 votescause darius is unplayable without attack speed.
you can't do shit without attack speed, unless you rely on your team to give you a dunk to get the passive (which never happened in this game since i died too quickly) so 
is a must.
then you have to get 40% cdr, and you also need armor to survive against ezreal and vi.
all of that while being behind with no gold, i tried to build sterak at the end but didn't reach it.
Apocalypsic1 votesUhhhhhhhh
Darius doesn't need attack speed. Especially if you utilize his auto reset properly.
Ahristocats1 votesyea, that attack speed reset is every second right? doesn't need attack speed when it takes 4 seconds to get 5 stacks, and that in teamfight darius needs 5 stacks asap.
there is a reason that truenoxianmight a challenger darius otp takes attack speed runes.
Catastrop1 votes[{quoted}](name=playfive Koopska,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MYZwvR5L,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2016-10-23T18:11:05.043+0000)
Lolwut? I've never seen a Darius built this item. He has enough auto resets in his kit to comfortably ignore attack speed.
Çhåryzård1 votesIf you have 3k hp and the ult does 1327 damage, no, you did not get one shot by a mage, that isn't how math works.
You had to take at least 1673 damage before her ulting to die from solely her ult.
And this is all just taking solid damage into account, not any resistances.
Ahristocats1 votesyeah because syndra is alone, let's forget that this team is 5v5 where you're focused by support brand and poppy
but sure, 1300 damage in a fraction of second on a bruiser is so balanced, it's only 30% of his max hp.
DoktorKaiser1 votesSyndra blows him up (might as well be Veigar) says MAGES OP HURR DURRR. Only Syndra and Veigar can deal that much damage with their ulti, Syndra will get nerfed anyway so stop qqing about mages, somebody has to fight with Darius since he is cancer for every melee champion in the game...
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesmaybe you should of picked a more mobile champ vs a long range burst champ like that... im told that is one of her weaknesses
Best princess EU1 votes[{quoted}](name=playfive Koopska,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MYZwvR5L,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-10-23T17:25:39.009+0000)
can't wait for edge of the night to go on live i swear, thanks riot.
wow, board finally realised that edge of the night is good for the game?
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesyet i thought items like already existed
and 
but yep need a new item
Irelia Bot1 votesBV can be popped by so many thigns and takes a while to come back up.
Edge of night you can activate just before you plan to go in.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesedge of night has to be channeled and any form of cc will interrupt the channel
Irelia Bot1 votesand that is why it is not broken OP like everyone is trying to suggest.
Vistha Kai1 votesYa know that Edge of the Night wouldn't do shit in this scenario, right?
Still "I got one-shot with 1327 damage, while I had 3k HP" sounds pretty... yeah.
Ahristocats1 votesright? but isn't it funny how board complains about edge of the night? i'm just happy that riot realised how mages are insane.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteshey just fyi... season 3 - season 6 a long range burst mage with cc would always beat darius
[zombie-brand-mindblown]
Vistha Kai1 votesThey complain, because it does in fact invalidate some champions.
Except not the ones deemed strong right now.
warpenguin5551 votesI see 2 problems with this.
1st, dont build Edge of Night on Darius. Maw is still better for Bruisers. And second, build more MR.
Catastrop1 votesYou're complaining about a mage with amazing kite, killing a champion whose biggest weakness is being kited.
Ahristocats1 votesbeing kited =/= dying in 1 sec.
Catastrop1 votesAnd I agree, but being CC'd and focused in a teamfight=dying in 1 second.
