Dear Junglers

Nidken·Jun 1, 2017·2 votes·416 views

IF YOU PLAY TO BE THE CARRY, IT IS YOUR FAULT IF YOU LOSE.

Do not ignore lanes, objectives, ganks and only farm and only secure stragglers that are convenient to your score if you do not plan to carry the team. By doing this you are starving your team of gold and experience. When you **CHOOSE **to be the strongest player at the expense of your team do not be surprised when they can not win fights without you.

Jungle is my main role, and if I go 13/0/0 and lose, I blame myself not my team. Share the gold or get better at carrying. Dropping the "gg noob team/all lanes lose" might get your throat cut.

6 Comments

TakazakiJun 1, 20172 votes

why is it the jungler's fault is the lanes lose?

unless its a tower dive, i wouldbet you a majority of lost lanes are due to either a skill match up or lane match up.

so you see or shy locked in/intent picked. why go something like jhin soraka bot when all it takes is a thresh/blitz/karma and almost any type of jungler with CC to jump on it and abuse it?

Imo carry junglers dont lose games. losing lanes lose the chance to carry from the jungler.

LauchmelderJun 1, 20171 votes

Well if the jungler kills krugs while his botlane gets 4 manned and is threatened to be dove then it IS his fault the tower was lost.

If the jungler thinks that raptors are more important than defending the mid tower when the midlaner had to b it IS his fault for losing the tower (and his own jungle pressure).

I will help my jungler during an invade, but I expect some help for that myself. If I don't get help (and he does absolutely nothing while I gradually lose my lane) then I'm better off ignoring him and going for the farm myself.

TheSingularityJun 1, 20171 votes

In that situation, the jungler wouldn't of made any difference unless they were fed af. They'd be in a delayed 3v4 which would likely be lossed with or without tower. And a single player opposing a 4man push is moronic.

As for the raptors, true. However I rarely see it occur. Most are awake enough to either notice the push. Or listen to the ping if they've drifted off a tad.

As for expecting compensation. Put it this way. If you bluntly refuse to help him. He may die, burn sums, loses his jungle. Which in turn puts him behind and reduces his ability to apply pressure anywhere (including your lane).

It isn't a matter of "If I save you, you better gank me". You save him because that increases your chance of winning. The team doesn't tilt, jgler doesn't tilt, no one falls very far behind and most junglers will try to return the favour either through buffs, warding for you, ganks or assistance in smashing the tower down.

Doubtful the jungler does none of the above. If it is the case, they're either hopeless or are busy helping those who need it more.

LauchmelderJun 1, 20171 votes

Well I'm used to a slightly higher elo than what I currently am. The junglers I play with usually aren't that great.

Maybe I just expect too much of them

Starcraft243verJun 1, 20171 votes

Nope.

Well, it's partially true. But there are many games where you are diana, or any jungler with low ganking capabilities before 6, the other jungler is a lee sin, you ask to play safe till you are "in the game".

Result expected : every lane hugs his tower, they are maybe 10 or 15 cs behind, i hit 6 i can go kill someone immediatly. the reality : Lee sin is alreay 6/0/3 the score is 1/12, someone has already afk after spamming ff and noob team.

TakazakiJun 1, 20171 votes

carry jungler have the role of farming hard but also warding well to prevent people getting dived without warning.

not to mention top lane has TP

assuming the carry jungler is playing his role properly you cant blame an L on 1 person because you died to something that was probably preventable.