Each 5 game promo series to the next league should come with a free dodge tbh

HateDaddy··43 votes·2,279 views

Honestly, Riot talks about how they don't want ranked games to feel stressful. Some people hate the promo series entirely and while I agree that they do bring some anxiety, I think having them allows us to have perks we'd otherwise not have (grace period games that don't allow you to automatically demote, it being hard as hell to demote from leagues etc).

That said, a 5 game series is what you must play to rank up to the next league. This brings the most anxiety and stress of any other series. With 5 games, there's a lot of shit that can go wrong. Your client could crash (it's happened to a lot of people actually), automatically kicking you out of your series, you could get an extremely volatile champ select that riot often encourages you to dodge (but you can't in this scenario), then the average champ select trolls etc. In normal promo series games to next divisions, this is frustrating too but I only have to win 2 games with 3 games max, which makes it feel less anxious when it happens. But with 5 games, you always get that feeling that each game freaking counts, even if you elect to look at as more opportunities, you still have to win one more game than usual as well.

Some people would say this isn't fair or leaves the system open to abuse for someone dodging if they don't get a comp they don't like. Know my response to that? So what, I think if you've managed to climb an entire tier, you should be awarded a grace game to throw away like that. Not to mention you risk losing your dodge game for something that could still be winnable instead of having it available for the chances of client crashes, bad champ select experiences etc. I'd suspect most people would actually use it more cautiously than that.

So yeah, roit pls

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Seenan3 votes

I think I'd rather a way that, outside of decay, there be no way to find yourself demoted. While promos, they have talked about reworking, I wouldn't care if they were gone because currently you need, on average (assuming wins are +20), ~140 LP to advance divisions and then from division 1 to new tier, that's on average, ~154 LP (assuming wins are around +18-22). I almost got demoted twice on a solid 8 loss streak recently, at least 6 of them cause of some derp on my team or some tilty nerd suiciding/throwing. I actually managed get graced with a good team at 0 LP on the close 2nd demotion.

It's far too easy for someone who just got trolled last game go annie smiteless jungle and end up 0-12-0 with no real penalty cause non-human tribunal. You just have to sit there with your 18-23 lessened LP and sigh.

Or for you to get queued with some Guatemalan that doesn't speak english and just spends the entire game running around being a derp.

Etc.

From Bronze to Gold at least, there should be no possible way to demote. Plat/Diamond, and onward, maybe keep it possible...But otherwise..Uh......Why? Hard enough to rank up with all the trolls as it is. I had to dodge a game because some moron was going Ashe jungle. No one was even cursing at him or being toxic. He just said 'hey, don't assume I'm adc just cause I picked ashe (swaps summs to flash/smite)'...then the next person on our team picks cait. Nope.avi

People always say you have to manage to carry the trolls on your team, but they shouldn't be a hurdle in ranking up in mobas to begin with...It should be the other team just being flat out better. Not some derp not listening or tilting causing you to lose an easily winnable game...well, if they were tilting, it wouldn't be easily winnable anymore cause they think that full health and homeguards makes them invulnerable to be able to run in, hit a yasuo 3 times then die instantly again.

Reformed Dunni2 votes

I think promotional series should just be removed as a whole, either that or win 2/3 to move to the next division and when you lose your promos you stay at 100lp until you lose the next game.

HateDaddy1 votes

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I think promotional series should just be removed as a whole, either that or win 2/3 to move to the next division and when you lose your promos you stay at 100lp until you lose the next game.

Well I'm fine with it going to 75lp since it has the grace game where you can't be demoted if you lose your first game in the next tier. I'd honestly have no problem with the promo series staying in place if the promo series to next leagues didn't feel so frustrating to play in.

Lynxonyx2 votes

Let's just get rid of promos. No one likes them.

HateDaddy2 votes

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Let's just get rid of promos. No one likes them.

As much as I would love that, I can't help but think of the alternative. I really do enjoy the fact you go up to a new tier/league and it's damn near impossible to be demoted down (your MMR would have to be an entire tier below what you are). Without promo series in place, there's not exactly a better solution to having such a feature and the grace games you can lose from each time you move up after a promo is nice, too. So while promo series ARE frustrating and bring anxiety at times, I think of the alternative and I would rather keep them. I just want some things cleaned up with them to take away a lot of unnecessary anxiety (cough cough garbage client cough).

MrWasjig1 votes

This is my stance^ Promos are my most hated aspect of the Ranked experience, and it's easy to just say "Get rid of them" but then what would we put in it's place?

GankLord2 votes

Promos should only happen when you're jumping Tiers and not divisions.

Bolwinkel2 votes

There shouldn't be promos inside of the divisions, they should only be there when you are about to rank up to the next tier. (Ex: No promos from S4-S3 but only for Silver to Gold etc.)

Kamakazu1 votes

I dont mind promos. But Why do I have to drop down further in lp if I lose? I really hate how it works if you win your first game and you lose your next two you lose 2 games worth of lp. I played earlier and lost the last 2 games of my promos and went from being in a promo series to 67 lp. I'm fine with losing my series but now you're basically telling me I gotta win 2-3 games in a row JUST TO GET BACK INTO MY PROMOS. THEN I have to win 2 outta 3 games. Lol. I think that's where the frustration lies. Considering how often people rage, troll or afk and then being expected to win 4-5 out of your next 6 games is a bit ridiculous. If you lose your promos you should lose the same lp every time. Not have it based on if you won or lost the 2nd game. If you lose your series make it so you need to win 1 more to get back into your promos. I don't think that's too ridiculous.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

If Riot intended for rank games to be not stressful, they are doing a terrible job.

I just passed my Silver 1 to Gold 5 promos recently, and it was almost just as bad as my Bronze 1 to Silver 5 promo. Out of my 3 tries into gold, and subsequent 8 losses in these 3 tries, perhaps 2 or 3 of them were "fair."

I had 1 d/c that threw the game on the first try. I had a suicidal Twitch on my 2nd try who went in without letting any of us know and got CC'ed to death. I had a toxic team that just ended up flaming each other into oblivion and threw the lead again on my 2nd try. I had a jungler who got over confident and didn't smite Baron on my third try. etc.

In pretty much these 6 games, my teammates were spending more times flaming each other than playing the game. Honestly, it feels like Riot puts me in worse teams on purpose when I do my promo.

The majority of the time I spent in Bronze and Silver was in the B1/S1 trying to get promoted. I could be winning 80% of my games, until I hit my promos.

Personally, I think Riot should just give a player one free game per rank promo if someone on the team afks. In between divisions as well as ranks, players should get at least one free dodge.

I climbed to Gold for the Victorious skin, I doubt I would bother to climb beyond Gold 1 in the future. There is just no incentives to put myself through it again. Ranked Solo Queue isn't fun, it isn't even tolerable.

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