I can't be the only one who thinks Ninja Tabi are OP
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Not even close. It is one of the few ways to counter AD hypercarries and to bully people like Riven
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Not even close. It is one of the few ways to counter AD hypercarries and to bully people like Riven
Well Riven is pretty broken right now so if it turns around and bullies her it has to be a damn good item.
Riven is above average right now, let us not over exaggerate. She is T1 not God Tier in soloQ and hasn't seen much professional play in a season or two.
It is a solid item vs AD, just as Mercs is a solid item vs AP.
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Riven is above average right now, let us not over exaggerate. She is T1 not God Tier in soloQ and hasn't seen much professional play in a season or two.
It is a solid item vs AD, just as Mercs is a solid item vs AP.
Yeah she's not that good right now. That's why 2 of the top 10 players are Riven mains.
Okay, let us talk 'top players'. Probuilds is the source of data for top master and challenger players.
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Riven 51%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Jayce 59%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Kennen 52%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Gangplank 56%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Darius 58%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Camille 63%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Irelia 51%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Yasuo 50%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Nautilus 55%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Poppy 57%
Hmm... it almost looks like for top players, the best, that Riven and Yasuo are hovering at a nice, fair win rate compared to actual meta monsters like Jayce, Camille and Poppy.
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Okay, let us talk 'top players'. Probuilds is the source of data for top master and challenger players.
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Riven 51%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Jayce 59%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Kennen 52%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Gangplank 56%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Darius 58%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Camille 63%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Irelia 51%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Yasuo 50%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Nautilus 55%
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Poppy 57%
Hmm... it almost looks like for top players, the best, that Riven and Yasuo are hovering at a nice, fair win rate compared to actual meta monsters like Jayce, Camille and Poppy.
That sounds like what the top lane mains complain about to me. Riven and Yasuo QQ are done by mage and ADC mains who blow their entire load on random shit.
How? Can you elaborate?
ADC=usless pre 30 min ADC attacking tank with ninja tabi= nonexistant damage
more people would think it was OP if they actually read what items do.
12% per AA is huge
more people would think it was OP if they actually read what items do.
12% per AA is huge
That's literally a reverse PD.
and PD is considered overpowered
really makes you think, huh?
Both defensive boots are kinda op, but mostly Tabi.
Nope I completely agree. if you dont need tenacity and you aren't adc just buy them no matter what.
On tanky champs, sure. On anyone squishy they tend to make no real difference.
currently they are a Necessity for tanks to survive the ad onslaught.
if riot were to remove keystones completely ninja tabi could be nerfed but not beforehand
Only if
and
are considered SUPER OP.