Darius is within 1% of 50% for the first time in years.

The Ecdysiast··3 votes·344 views

https://na.op.gg/champion/darius/statistics/top

But op.gg only uses Platinum+ players, which is only around 11% of ranked players according to http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/rank-distribution.

Due to the low-skill-high-reward nature of the champion's mechanics, he's much more suited to stomping out the other 89% of players.

He does not have the complexity to give the kind of reward he does. Champions that are successful at high levels of skill should rightfully be the more difficult champions to play well. All Darius has is that he's the top of the raw stat sub class, and that makes him a viable pick.

But Riot's duty to balance the game for high-skill competitive players should not overshadow their duty to balance the game for all players. The power niche that Darius fills is one that he and he alone occupies. That is, he's only reliably beaten when counter-picked, while he's even more likely to win against champions he outclasses than his counters are to beat him. And likewise, if he wins lane he has damage that cannot be defended against and healing that by its nature counters heal mitigation. While he falls off completely if the enemy team picked against him.

It's no coincidence his ban rate shot up when the 10 ban system was introduced. Before, it was high priority picks who absolutely needed to be banned because they were the strong ones per-patch. But since he's been oppressing far longer, albeit at a lesser strength, the new system opened up the ability for people to ban him as well.

So no, it's not stupid for the community to complain about a champion who has been an issue for the vast majority of players for years. What's stupid is thinking that the company has incentive to allow Darius to exist when a vastly greater proportion of potential customers dislike his strength.

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Big Lincoln4 votes

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ummmmmmmmmmmmm he's gutted hehe

pls gib % true damage

Eedat1 votes

time to nerf BC again nd half Q damage same time no worries seems fair

Big Lincoln1 votes

pls no then he would 49.98 and unviable

:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( no dont do it

Eedat1 votes

Too late. Commencing circlejerk

The Ecdysiast1 votes

It wasn't nerfed, it was adjusted specifically to better suit Darius's class so ADCs would stop abusing it, making it even harder for opponents to build to damage him.

And now, with the increase in HP for Cleaver on top of a decrease to sunfire's champion damage, there is no chance any tank can win against him at top even by sitting under tower and getting camped. Only a moron would bother using Q and pushing up the wave when you can just freeze because he starts off with 100-0 potential that a player should only have when they've already been winning lane.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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ummmmmmmmmmmmm he's gutted hehe

pls gib % true damage

Yeah better buff him up.

How about giving him 20% crit chance per bleed proc against enemies with bleed proc?

Sujiren2 votes

I understand darius being good in low rank because he punishes pretty hard, but by that logic wouldnt ilaoi be even worse? She will 1 vs 2 enemy top and jungle, and wll punish shitters in general that dont understand how her ult works, and yet noone complains about her.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Well according to champion.gg, Illaoi wins almost 100% of all surrenders at or around 20 minutes in lower elos, compared to Darius's only 70%.

The main difference is that you actually have to land a skillshot to do most of Illaoi's punishing damage, and her damage can be avoided by leaving the range of the tentacles even if she herself stays on top of you. Not enough low elo Illaoi players know how to play her right.

And then no one complains about her at high elo because the ways to play around her are far harder for her to adapt to than they are for Darius. Dairyus can easily play around supposed counters as long as he doesn't just let them kill him. 'Cause Darius's counters are champions who specifically counter his kit, but are burst diver types, he just has to make sure not to overextend and save his slow for when they try to engag. Meanwhile Illaoi can actually be counterplayed regardless of your pick.

Sujiren2 votes

Darius also has skillshots, easily avoidable short range pull and q that only does damage with outer blade. Only seems good to me vs immobile tanks, but top lane tanks are kinda dead anyway since itemization changes darius isint the only one that beats tanks.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

There is a big difference between a good and bad Darius and this idea that he's a stat check champion is a load of nonsense.

sobi9991 votes

You present good arguments backed up with stats. I don't think there has been a single comment that has questioned the validity of your points with enough justification. I don't play top so i don't know how much of a pain darius is xD

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