So I played support for once

Handy Sandy ·Jul 26, 2016·8 votes·742 views

being one of the two champions I know how to play I tried to pick mid, which was taken. The only thing not taken? Support. Pretty much everything can be a support, I did pretty well for my first time as a support, buuuut...

My team didn't ward at ALL, making me do all the wards and then yelling at me when I didn't, but can't you only have 3 wards? Also, isn't it everyone's job to ward their area? I really feel bad for all the other support mains that do this type of stuff all the time. If you have a support on your team, please don't yell at them. It's everyone's job to ward. Pretty much all champions can be a support if you have a heal summoner spell or some type of knockback or stun, so don't yell at them when they don't pick something like Sona or Bard.

27 Comments

Lost RJul 26, 20165 votes

Yeah, that's what the supports regularly have to deal with.

Now imagine doing that for three years.

rtbf221651412Jul 26, 20162 votes

You can have 4 wards. item 2043

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

You can actually have 6 since you can upgrade Sightstone and stack two Pinks in your inventory.

Actually you can have 8 with the ward trinket also, but that's obviously overkill. XD

SwiftKitten88Jul 26, 20161 votes

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You can actually have 6 since you can upgrade Sightstone and stack two Pinks in your inventory.

Actually you can have 8 with the ward trinket also, but that's obviously overkill. XD

well if you wanna go that route you can have infinite ward on any champ if you use item 3363 as long as they are never killed realistically you can only ever have 4.

3 from you item 2049 and 1 item 2043 because you better damn well get a item 3341 after you buy your sightstone

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Haha yeah. I still sometimes forget to buy and upgrade Oracle - silly me.

However, you should have 4 wards from a Sightstone upgrade (Eye of the _____) the entire game. And you should have a Pink Ward in your inventory quite often also. So, 5 is more like it.

rtbf221651412Jul 26, 20162 votes

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Haha yeah. I still sometimes forget to buy and upgrade Oracle - silly me.

However, you should have 4 wards from a Sightstone upgrade (Eye of the _____) the entire game. And you should have a Pink Ward in your inventory quite often also. So, 5 is more like it.

You can only have 4 wards out at once.

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20162 votes

Well the OP said you can only have 3 wards, so I assume he's talking about how many you can have at once in your inventory and not how many you can have on the map.

Also you can have infinite on the map with Farsight and ooohhhhh, that's what Swiftkitten meant.

SwiftKitten88Jul 26, 20161 votes

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Haha yeah. I still sometimes forget to buy and upgrade Oracle - silly me.

However, you should have 4 wards from a Sightstone upgrade (Eye of the _____) the entire game. And you should have a Pink Ward in your inventory quite often also. So, 5 is more like it.

upgrading item 2049 lets it hold one more CHARGE.. the limit you can have PLACED at any one time excluding item 2043 and item 3363 still reamains at 3.. if you try to place the 4th charge from item 2045 or item 2302 it will remove the first ward you place if it hasn't expired

so u can still only have 4 wards out

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Yeah, I assumed you were talking about in your inventory. I thought that's what ChromaSpell was talking about.

Amasa DelanoJul 26, 20161 votes

You can only have 3 stealth wards and 1 pink on the map at any given time. To have more map coverage at any one time (without Farsight wards), you need more people warding!

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Yep, but I was talking about in your inventory.

Amasa DelanoJul 26, 20161 votes

I mean, depending on how often you back, you can have an indefinite number of wards "in your inventory." I get what you are saying, though.

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

At one time of course.

Attticus FinchJul 26, 20162 votes

Support main here. The notion that it's everyone's job to ward is a meme. Yes, it's everyone's job to ward, but only one player on each team can place up to 6 at a time. It's everyone's job to ward, but it's your job more than others.

Like, "it's everyone's job to do damage", but no one sane is ever going to get mad at the bot-lane Leona for not topping the damage leaderboard- whereas any ADC who isn't at least in second place for damage done either had a bad game or is a bad ADC.

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20162 votes

You can only place up to 4 Wards on the map at a time (3 stealths and a Pink) unless you mean Farsights?

ÇhåryzårdJul 26, 20162 votes

Anything can be a support but you have to be playing support. I checked your match, your adc was 1/6 while you were 5/3 (this was the most recent one)

Now I don't know if you were trying to get them kills and the adc sucked and you guys got ganked a lot. I'm not saying you weren't trying, I'm just saying in general to everyone, if you want to take a champ who isn't a support in the support role, please actually support, because I have so many people pick midlaners, build damage, and take all my kills so I fall behind and become unrelevant. This is in no way to attack you or anything, I'm a support main and I've been one for almost 2 years so I'm just trying to help.

I'm looking at the most recent match by the way, idk if it is that one so I checked all of them that you have as syndra in normals, and you didn't build sight stone at all in any of them. You built a midlane build, and that is why they got mad at you.

Warding is a part of the support role, and while EVERYONE should be warding, a support should be warding the most and destroying enemy wards. You must build a support item as these are your main source of gold income besides assists and kills. You have around 100 cs in each game, and if you got that cs in lane do not continue, because cs is how your adc is getting gold. Taking their cs when they are in lane puts them behind the other adc. I believe around 15 cs = a kill's worth of gold, so if your adc is 15 cs behind the enemy adc they are behind a kill.

Always get item 2049 , it gives you 3 wards that last longer than yellow wards and also some health. After getting Sightstone, I usually get item 3341 and eventually upgrade to item 3364 . This allows you to destroy enemy wards. If you do not get rid of enemy wards, your jungle will not be able to gank because they will always see him coming, you'll be spotted taking important objectives like drag and baron, and if you're going in to take out a straggler farming in lane they will see you if they warded. It is also good for making sure they don't have vision in your own jungle, if they see your jungler they might invade to kill him. Red trinket and Sightstone are very important and every support should have both imo.

ALWAYS build a support item, and for syndra I'd suggest item 3092 as it gives you a slow, damage, cdr, and gold upon hitting the enemy which is what you'll be wanting to do since syndra has a lot of poke. If you think you're going to have a hard time in lane and not be able to poke safely, build item 3069 because you'll get gold for every nearby minion killed, cdr, and it gives you a speed up.

Once you have your support item and sightstone, then you can start building damage. They most likely got mad because you didn't have a support item, a sightstone, and built a straight midlane build, however if they were not contributing to wards they are still at fault.

I also see you don't have a keystone, and personally for syndra I like deathfire. It adds a nice little extra damage to your poke and I've actually gotten kills with it (the best was I ulted someone as Cait and it didn't kill them right away, so I was like "awwww" but then the deathfire finished them off XD)

So basically, to sum that all up in a tl;dr

Always buy a sightstone and upgrade it later in game
Make sure you get a red trinket after sightstone and then upgrade it at lvl 9
Build a support item, I personally suggest for syndra but if you cannot safely poke I'd get
Always use all your charges on sightstone before backing and during the laning phase make sure gank points are clear of wards so your jg can come in undetected

And I'm just going off of the games I see on op.gg . The most recent game was from a day ago so idk when you played this game you are speaking of, but I'm just going off of that so sorry if you did all of this and I'm just not seeing it e.e

Also I main Nami and Sona support with the occasional Soraka

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Did people really yell at you, or are you exaggerating? I can see it happening, but no one has yelled at me for neglecting to place wards - even when I was a nooby support that didn't ever buy Sightstone. And I have played hundreds of support games.

Handy Sandy Jul 26, 20161 votes

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Did people really yell at you, or are you exaggerating? I can see it happening, but no one has yelled at me for neglecting to place wards - even when I was a nooby support that didn't ever buy Sightstone. And I have played hundreds of support games.

Being told I was a horrible support over and over again for not protecting the adc when he dives in to a 2v1 and ends up getting ganked while my wards were on cooldown....ehhh not really exaggerating

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Well that's sad. You had some toxic teammates. :(

inplaneJul 26, 20161 votes

People yelling at the Support for not warding as much happens all the time. I've had people call me a "wardless support" when I couldn't keep wards up because the enemy had a more dominant presence. Like how the hell do you expect me to sweep and ward the jungle if our enemies are in it half the time and the rest of the team doesn't dare to leave inner turrets?

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Tell your team to buy Farsights. If mid, top, or bot doesn't have one after you've bought sightstone or the jungler has bought it, then that's mostly their fault.

inplaneJul 26, 20161 votes

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Tell your team to buy Farsights. If mid, top, or bot doesn't have one after you've bought sightstone or the jungler has bought it, then that's mostly their fault.

Luckily people are learning to buy farsights after like 2 months into learning that it places a permanent ward for free. Some people still don't do it and stick to yellow trinkets (These are the same people who called me a wardless support) even when it's 40 minutes into the game.

DænariusKhølerinJul 26, 20161 votes

Yep. That's on them, because far sights provide a lot of vision later especially the lower the elo since it's less likely people will be focused on ward clearing.

OleandervineJul 26, 20161 votes

Syndra isn't a horrible support, I've done it a couple times with moderate success. The hardest part is landing those balls with E and slowing with W.

MorganKainesJul 26, 20161 votes

Welcome to support land, lol.

I learned to ignore the "WHY U not WARD, IDIOT" a long time ago. Basically top and mid need to secure their own lanes with vision items; they can't cry for the support to come help them. Jungler should ward important jungle spots, although I do help ward dragon fairly often because it's so close during laning phase I might as well.

But yes. It's everyone's job to ward, albeit it is expected the support buy sightstone, which has 3 charges. It's also expected the support clears enemy wards. And I find my games go a LOT better when I do well in the warding department. However, there's only so much one person can ward, so when you know you ward as efficiently as you are able, and people still complain; ignore them.

Sometimes I remind them that they can ward as well, while letting them know I ward as much as I am able/allowed to. That tends to calm people down a bit, but some will complain no matter what, and ignoring them is the only way you'll still get a good game out of it.

Personally I am a fan of exploring and experimenting a bit, at least outside of ranked games, so I would never protest on anyone's choice of champ regardless of role or lane. I sigh a bit at certain champs, but that's only because I have a hard time supporting them over other champs. For example, Tristana is exhausting, considering her movability. When I lane with a Tristana I know we'll likely do very well, but I'll be stressed out during laning phase. She might jump in at any moment, and her jumping can take her pretty far ahead making it hard for me to keep her alive lest I pay good attention and position myself very well, lol.

So, yeah. But I've mained support since I started playing this game in early 2015 or late 2014 (can't quite remember) and I LOVE it. #SonaMain4ever.

LegacyDAPJul 26, 20161 votes

I know you're new and stuff, but I looked to find your support Syndra game and couldn't find it, but I did find some double boots builds and I couldn't stop loling at it because I remembered that I was new and bad too. Then I remembered I'm no longer new and still bad. Now it's kind of depressing. At least you stopped building double boots though!

Anyways, whatever game you were Syndra support I couldn't find it, probably because you never changed your summoner spells and you didn't take Sightstone.