Is there some reason why more junglers are just walking into lanes and taking farm?

Zardo··1 votes·503 views

Recently I've been seeing junglers just walk up into my lane and take farm. Not push the wave, just legitimately use their abilities or smite to secure every possible minion in the wave. They then get angry if I try to farm their jungle. Is there some streamer doing this sort of thing? Is it coming out of nowhere? Am I just getting really unlucky and running into a bunch of trolls?

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ObscureParticle4 votes

If I am playing jg and one of my laners goes to base or dies, and i end up having to cover the tower so it does not get destroyed, then I farm while I'm there until they come back and I can leave. Otherwise I am not being efficient.

Zardo1 votes

That's perfectly reasonable and what I would hope anyone would do, especially if you're just last hitting or reseting the wave

EmperorPengu3 votes

It's more with how the jungles role has switched. As jungler a we have to put up with laners sht without great return. But now the jungle has switched to one of the most prominent roles in the game we have to crontrol the game. It's becoming who has the better jg on their team. So sry if junglers have to steal some farm. We are just trying to outclass the other jg.

Zardo1 votes

But taking farm from an ADC, mid laner, or top laner? By you trying to outclass your enemy jungler, you're gimping other roles who are going to need the farm late game.

EmperorPengu1 votes

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But taking farm from an ADC, mid laner, or top laner? By you trying to outclass your enemy jungler, you're gimping other roles who are going to need the farm late game.

My rules for minion stealing are 1: Is my lane that I'm stealing from ahead by a lot

2: am I way behind average

3: could I steal the enemy's jg

Thresh Outta Fux1 votes

As a jungler, I stopped jungling for 3 games and played fill.

All 3 games I got jungle. Had to actually queue for support.

No one wants to JG anymore, as it's the role that decides the game. Especially when you've got a 50/50 shot of having allies who shove lanes instead of letting the opponent push when you're available to gank.

Alex h87211 votes

because theyre jerks, when i jg i will only farm/push a lane IF my laner is backed and enemy isnt, or if both laners have roamed to another lane and theres a chance to take tower.

Dukues1 votes

because your bronze and their bronze.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

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because your bronze and their bronze.

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Yaśuo Main1 votes

That logic means OP can be challenger and it still happens

Zardo1 votes

*this account is, check the match history

This is happening at a higher elo more often than in bronze

Icy Hot Shoto1 votes

One reason I've seen? Usually they're behind and trying to get to where they need to be. For example, a Master Yi who's behind a Lee Sin may stay behind if the Lee is able to keep himself viable in the late game. So sometimes they'll take a few minions or a few waves to try and get back in, especially if they're being counter jungled.

Though I've also seen it happen when the lane they're taking the cs from is behind. I've had a game before where I was 0/4 as Vel. I was having a hard game against a LeBlanc and so I was trying my best to farm under my tower, which wasn't going so well since Vel auto's don't do much and I didn't have a lot of ap. My jungler didn't help, but would take farm I was trying to get. The reason being "you're behind, i'm not. if i get more ahead i'll carry."

Personally, the only time a jungler should be taking cs is if;

  • The lane is being pushed and the laner is either dead, had to recall or in another lane. ie; top/mid teleported bot to gank.
  • The jungler is helping to try and get the tower, which then it doesn't matter WHO gets the cs
  • The jungler is behind and is trying to get back ahead.
  • The jungler just ganked, and YOU got the kill. If you got the kill, let them have some minions.

Though I'll admit, junglers should be more careful who they're taking cs from. A Nasus who's trying to stack needs the minions, while the adc will need them too if they're behind, ahead or trying to stay on the same "level" as the enemy adc. Most tanks will also need minions until they get 3 or 4 items. Often times it's hard to know who you should be taking cs from and who you shouldn't be during the entire game. Unless someone's so fed they have all their items, then they don't need cs imo.

But, you know, a lot of people also care about their end game grade and will complain even at full build if they don't get cs.

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