RIOT please, I'm begging!

Radiant Wukong··2 votes·506 views

Give me back my WotA. It's complete bullshit that any AP champ that wants sustain has to build a fucking gunblade. While gunblade is ideal for Akali, Katarina, Mordekaiser, Fizz, Diana. I used to use WotA for so many champs and gunblade isn't a substitution for ranged mages like Vlad, Morgana, Lux, Karma, Ryze, Zyra, Heimer, etc

PLEASE BRING WOTA BACK!

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A Nunu6 votes

WoTA promoted a sustain meta due to the Spell Vamp that it had, and how useful it was to the wrong champions. Sustain in the game is ultimately unhealthy for the game. The reason why Gunblade has Spell Vamp on it is exactly because of the champions that _ actually_ use it.

Let's say, for example, a mage buys a Gunblade. The mage can't really make use of the AD that's on the item, ultimately making it a worthless item on them, preventing them to abuse the Spell Vamp and have an AFK, sit back and heal playstyle.

Now, let's say a standard Gunblade user, like Katarina buys a Gunblade. Katarina (and basically all other Gunblade users) have unique fighting styles that require them to all-in in order to actually do damage to enemies (unless they're insanely fed). All in-ing like this is risky since they are very squishy and weak to most forms of CC, and in most cases, WILL result in them taking damage. The Spell Vamp IS ONLY THERE to help make their fighting styles not so overly punishing.

Also, the way Gunblade users work is that they are very feast or famine, only making it so that you MUST constantly take risks for kills in order to be useful. This makes it virtually impossible for users to just sit back and sustain themselves to victory.

Edit: I've seen that you've used life steal as an argument on why WoTA is okay to be brought back. Lifesteal on melee champions is okay to be in the game for nearly the same reason that Gunblade is okay to be built on Gunblade users. ADCs on the other hand, have next to no forms of self-peel and disengage compared to mages. They're also not bursty enough in the early game to make as much use of all the peel they already have. So in return, they get life steal. In the late game, life steal on ADCs doesn't really matter since they will most likely be bursted down by an assassin before they can even heal up.

I hope this helps you better understand why your beloved WoTA shouldn't be added back into League of Legends.

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Radiant Wukong3 votes

What League of Legends have you been playing? Draven move speed and knockback Ashe stun and perma slow + ability that grants vision Caitlyn traps and dash Ezreal blink Tristana leap and knockback Jinx bind and slow KogMaw slow Varus bind and slow Quinn "blind" and knockback stun + ability that grants vision Sivir spell shield and movespeed Teemo blind, movespeed, perma slow that also grants vision Xayah untargetable and stun Vayne invisibility, dash, knockback that can stun

They have plenty of self peel on top of having range. Again, I don't know what League of Legends you've been playing, but it's been a very very very long time since I've seen any assassin kill a marksman in a team fight due to allies + item 3072 item 3812 item 3026 + item 3504 item 3107 item 3109 + summoner 7 summoner 3

MARKSMAN ARE SQUISHY ONLY WHEN THEY'RE BY THEMSELVES! Mages are squishy even when their whole fucking team is around.

In my last game, I was playing Dariusitem 3075 item 3071 item 3009 item 3065 item 3812item 3748 and caught AsheMorgana in mid lane so I dived them. Got Ashe very low, Morgana binded me, I hit my Q, Ashe flashed away. Q ended, I flashed then Warwick ult'd me. Ashe had exactly 4 health! 4 FUCKING HEALTH! When the team fight started a few seconds later, guess who had 100% health again without recalling. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Darius Warwick Morgana

Why did Ashe get to heal herself back to 100% health with item 3072 , negate a lot of my damage with item 3812 , and even if I killed her, get a second chance at life with item 3026 . Which also reminds me, mages got screwed over on GA as well. Speaking of mages being screwed over, guess who the first to die in the team fight?

Good old Morgana. Morgana who blew her item 3157 so I couldn't execute her, giving her enough time for Warwick to come ult me. Morgana who could have healed a decent amount of health with her W on a minions and a few teammates and had a chance. But no, screw everybody that isn't a marksman.

Zed Kayn Khazix Leblanc LeeSin Nocturne Pantheon Rengar Talon Vi XinZhao Yasuo Akali Evelynn Fizz Jax Kassadin Irelia Katarina Nidalee excel in killing squishy targets in the chaos of a team fight. Most of the time going 1 for 1. AP assassins, AP marksmen, AP mages drop dead instantly unless they have their item 3157 (which still takes them out the fight for 2.5 seconds).

You know who doesn't die? The AD assassins and AD marksmen. Why... because they have item 3812 and item 3072 . If that isn't enough to sustain, they have item 3026 which takes them out the fight for 4 seconds and brings them back with 50% of their health, 30% mana and they still have their item 3072 healing on EVERY SINGLE AA coming in a 2AA/s minimal.

item 3157 restores no health and no mage item grants healing. Again, mages get bent over and screwed by RIOT while ADCs get a step stool to stand on while receiving amazing fellatio from RIOT.

A Nunu5 votes

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What League of Legends have you been playing? Draven move speed and hard cc Ashe stun and perma slow + ability that grants vision Caitlyn traps and dash Ezreal blink Tristana leap and knockback Jinx bind KogMaw slow Varus bind and slow Quinn "blind" and knockback slow + ability that grants vision Sivir spell shield and movespeed Teemo blind, movespeed, perma slow that also grants vision Xayah untargetable and stun Vayne invisibility, dash, knockback that can stun

They have plenty of self peel on top of having range. Again, I don't know what League of Legends you've been playing, but it's been a very very very long time since I've seen any assassin kill a marksman in a team fight due to hard CC for allies + item 3072 item 3812 item 3026 + item 3504 item 3107 item 3109 + summoner 7 summoner 3

In my last game, I was playing Dariusitem 3075 item 3071 item 3009 item 3065 item 3812item 3748 and caught AsheMorgana in mid lane so I dived them. Got Ashe very low, Morgana binded me, I hit my Q, Ashe flashed away. Q ended, I flashed then Warwick ult'd me. Ashe had exactly 4 health! 4 FUCKING HEALTH! When the team fight started a few seconds later, guess who had 100% health again without recalling. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't Warwick Morgana

I'm pretty sure you're really only looking at what a champion has in their kits, but aren't actually THINKING about what would happen in a realistic game.

Also no offence, it feels like you're a bit butthurt and didn't even read what I said carefully. You're just throwing out every ADC with any form of CC.

And again, no offence, but that example you used about that game you had was really bad. And your point only becomes less credible from the fact that you are currently in Bronze.

Edit: I just did a quick check on OP.GG and lolking.net, and by the looks of it, you've actually NEVER played a game of Darius with that build OR that comp, so basically, you just lied. #Yikes.

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Radiant Wukong2 votes

My brother keeps his account logged on the boards. No reason to log him out. If you look at the boards history on this profile, you'll notice there are 2 majorly different perspectives and way of conveying messages. That's not split personality, it's actually 2 different humans.

Furthermore, you should noticed this account hasn't played a single match all week because he's suspended. I'm not suspended.

Lastly, no salt, I won the game and got an S on Darius in diamond 1 btw. SOLO Q! And my example was very relevant because you were talking about them not having self peel. NOBODY IN THIS GAME HAS SELF PEEL EXCEPT MARKSMAN, RANGED MAGES and Olaf DrMundo

Self Peel = doing damage without taking damage.

It's also blatantly obvious you use multiple accounts because you're the one doing all the up voting and down voting. Boosting your boards account. That's truly pathetic.

A Nunu2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MM76hOjJ,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-30T11:53:37.936+0000)

My brother keeps his account logged on the boards. No reason to log him out. If you look at the boards history on this profile, you'll notice there are 2 majorly different perspectives and way of conveying messages. That's not split personality, it's actually 2 different humans.

Furthermore, you should noticed this account hasn't played a single match all week because he's suspended. I'm not suspended.

Lastly, no salt, I won the game and got an S on Darius in diamond 1 btw. SOLO Q! And my example was very relevant because you were talking about them not having self peel. NOBODY IN THIS GAME HAS SELF PEEL EXCEPT MARKSMAN, RANGED MAGES and Olaf DrMundo

Self Peel = doing damage without taking damage.

...Sure, man.

I can very clearly see that you're really not reading what I've said properly, and I don't really think you or whoever else will use that account will either.

For now, I'm done talking here. Goodbye.

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Radiant Wukong1 votes

Emphasis on SOLO QUEUE btw. Just thought I'd say that again. That means I get the job done by myself unlike literally everybody else in my elo.

DW Diana3 votes

Tbh I think it would be a good item to have. Most mages have some form of sustain anyway, with ROA being core on so many, this would just bring more mage into the meta. Regarding the wonder statement about those using gunblade needing it, they are also hypermobile and therefore able to quickly dart into and OUT OF the fight.

DrTeath2 votes

I loved it too . Used it on many champs ,esp Malzahar . I could deff see using it on Lissandra and Talia.

But Riot only care if and how its being used at higher levels of play. They seem to hate us folk who dont want to play ranked .

Radiant Wukong2 votes

It was so gold efficient, too. Reasonable rush as a first item, unlike fucking 3400 gold item 3146

Colte2 votes

the price of gunblade pisses me off, i also miss the wota

DW Diana1 votes

Wota? Sorry only started last season.

Radiant Wukong1 votes

Will of the ancients, gave ability power and 20% spell vamp as a passive. Cost about 2400 gold.

DrTeath1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Radiant Wukong,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MM76hOjJ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-03-30T08:31:52.482+0000)

Will of the ancients, gave ability power and 20% spell vamp as a passive. Cost about 2400 gold.

Near the end, it also gave cdr wota

Devilreaper XIII1 votes

spellvamp was broken, instead they should remove gunblade.

Radiant Wukong2 votes

Spell vamp is 10x less broken than lifesteal.

And they should get rid of death's dance while they're at it, right?

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