So why is exactly jhin already getting buffed again?

Rexxiee··3 votes·735 views

God forbid he hasant been top tier for 2~3 patches, better give huge buffs to his ult again!

Meanwhile Jinx and Tristana have been bottom tier for around 1.5 years and are still completely ignored.

Nice joke riot.

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Ahristocats8 votes

jinx 50.5% win rate 12% pick rate

jhin 46% win rate 6% pick rate

when is your biase going to stop already?

i tried to play him 2 times yesterday and got reported for playing him, can you at least try to play him to feel how it is to not deal any damage?

Blakiepug1 votes

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jinx 50.5% win rate 12% pick rate

jhin 46% win rate 6% pick rate

when is your biase going to stop already?

i tried to play him 2 times yesterday and got reported for playing him, can you at least try to play him to feel how it is to not deal any damage?

Jhin and Jinx don't exactly have the same skill cap, do they? If Azir taught us anything, it's that the higher a champion's skill cap, the lower their win rate should be. How would you like it if Azir was able to break 50% win rate again? Because saying Jhin deserves to have a dominant win rate while Azir sits at one of the lowest win rates in the game is bias. Everyone has bias, and pointing that out in and of itself isn't an argument. "You are obviously bias so I am right Jhin deserves buffs."

Ralanr1 votes

So are you saying Jhin takes more skill than Jinx or less?

HeresyHorus2 votes

ADCs are all easy to begin with but i think Jinx needs more skill than Jhin because she cant 1 shot champs with a +1500 damage per auto and run with +500 move speed and burst heal like Jhin can.

Jinx needs 2 - 3 autos to kill champs but i think 0.5 sec more before getting killed by targeted autos is enough time to react if u have an Augmented Eye to Muscle Reaction nervous system.

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Ralanr2 votes

Wait where is Jhin getting the heal? Deaths dance?

And as much as I'd like to argue how I don't see Jinx's auto attack pattern we more skillful than Jhin, I think I don't actually need such a discussion right now.

Instead I'll just say this, Jhin is a lot easier to play against than Jinx because of his clear windows of opportunity. So buffing him isn't as big a problem as buffing Jinx.

Blakiepug1 votes

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Wait where is Jhin getting the heal? Deaths dance?

And as much as I'd like to argue how I don't see Jinx's auto attack pattern we more skillful than Jhin, I think I don't actually need such a discussion right now.

Instead I'll just say this, Jhin is a lot easier to play against than Jinx because of his clear windows of opportunity. So buffing him isn't as big a problem as buffing Jinx.

As a support main, I would rather face a Jinx over a Jhin any day. Jhin's 4th shot makes him a threat up close and as a result Jinx winds up having more windows of opportunity to abuse than Jhin. I don't get why people say there are "clear" windows of opportunity to play against Jhin. That's a weakness of the class, not of Jhin.

Ralanr1 votes

It's a weakness to have clear windows of opportunity?

Blakiepug1 votes

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So are you saying Jhin takes more skill than Jinx or less?

Jhin more.

AgentBlack5 votes

+10/15/20 base damage at respective ult ranks is not a "huge" buff, and Jhin is garbage right now. Jinx isn't even bad, just not in meta. Tristana sucks though, you're right about that at least.

Rexxiee2 votes

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+10/15/20 base damage at respective ult ranks is not a "huge" buff, and Jhin is garbage right now. Jinx isn't even bad, just not in meta. Tristana sucks though, you're right about that at least.

"jinx isnt bad, just in the current meta"

That has been said in the last 2 years worth of metas.

When is she EVER good then? When hyper carries are good ppl just pick twitch kogmaw vayne over her.

AgentBlack1 votes

When hypercarries are meta. She was equally used or favored compared to those Champions in various phases of pro play. These days, pros just avoid Champions without any utility. Pro meta is much different than casual play.

NinjaGuy693 votes

God forbid he hasant been top tier for 2~3 patches, better give huge buffs to his ult again!

Huge buffs to his ult? Its base damage is increased by 20 at max rank. Even if he were to land all 4 shots, he would only be doing 80 more physical damage with his ult after the buffs. What is math?

LeagueOfJhin3 votes

Jhins stats are worse than Jinx she just isn't meta

Rexxiee2 votes

Oh yeah my bad i forgot jhin is the lee sins of the adc role, boards have a boner for him and said he was the most balanced champ in the game when he had ridiculous stats and was broken.

PermabannedGaren2 votes

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God forbid he hasant been top tier for 2~3 patches, better give huge buffs to his ult again!

Meanwhile Jinx and Tristana have been bottom tier for around 1.5 years and are still completely ignored.

Nice joke riot.

Jinx isn't even bottom tier now, much less for the past 1.5 years. She's also much better than Jhin.

Bradley Dragon1 votes

trist i less of a true adc and more of a tower killer

Vęrtęx1 votes

47.5 wr last time I looked is not in a good state and he is considered by many to be one of the most enjoyable adcs. I would agree he is my favorite after Kalista because he is a unique adc with many satisfying gameplay options but he is pretty weak rn. This is where I think riot is coming from on these buffs.

Blakiepug1 votes

The thing that really bothers me is that Bork only just got nerfed and that was supposedly what was making him weaker (though I think Jhin is actually still stronger than most people think, and I am not alone given the high amount of LCS play Jhin saw this last weekend). It's also rather annoying that, like you said, this is the first time since release that Jhin has fallen from the top of the meta, and he hasn't even been mid tier for that long. But nope, Riot is going to buff Jhin pretty heavily, even though he was never nerfed in the first place, and leave other ADCs like Sivir who have been struggling for far longer or even Varus who was in that meta with Jhin a few months ago. It's frustrating the bias that this champion recieves. But at least 10 bans is here so I never have to put up with this monstrosity ever again.

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