Rework passives of zilean and heimerdinger

UdoIkOSc4u··17 votes·1,102 views

they are useless and completely uninteractive

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Rinky Dinky10 votes

Heimerdingers passive is fine.

Zileans is trash

Ipols4 votes

They should buff Lee sin instead! Heimer and Zilean are fine

TotalJerk3 votes

Heimerdinger's passive is very much useful. On top of being able to hide his bitch ass behind a wall of turrets, if you even manage to get a hit off on him, his massive health regen will heal it right back up. In addition, lots of champions get more regen standing next to Heimer than any item in the game can offer aside from Warmog's.

Lost In Time2 votes

Let's not buff Hiem.

Audiomancy1 votes

Did you know that Heimerdinger has the highest HP5 in the game at every level? The more you know.

#ReworkDongerPassiveNow

Seriously. Why does he even still have this thing? They should've given him a turret-focused passive with his rework.

UdoIkOSc4u2 votes

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Did you know that Heimerdinger has the highest HP5 in the game at every level? The more you know.

#ReworkDongerPassiveNow

and one of the lowest health

Lost In Time2 votes

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Did you know that Heimerdinger has the highest HP5 in the game at every level? The more you know.

#ReworkDongerPassiveNow

Yes, but it doesn't matter if you're squishier than a bouncy ball.

Remlap12231 votes

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Did you know that Heimerdinger has the highest HP5 in the game at every level? The more you know.

#ReworkDongerPassiveNow

So let's see here. I play Riven who has (one of) the lowest HP5 in the game. You play Sion. You try to 1v1 me. I put up my AD scaling sheild and animation cancel burst you to death because I bought Last Whisper and Yomumu's, despite your 5k health.

I play the donger who has the highest HP5 in the game. You play Sion. You try to 1v1 me. I stun you, fire my rockets, let my turrets take you down, Zhonya's, but because you're playing Sion and have built a ton of MR because you're Sion, you survive with 500 health and kill me because I couldn't regen fast enough.

It doesn't matter if you regen 100 health per second if you're insanely squishy and have no defensive abilities. Someone will be able to burst you down, or have enough DPS to do enough sustained damage.

Remlap12232 votes

The Donger's passive is so that his turrets don't get insta gibbed just because the enemy is bursty. If they don't have the AP to delete his turrets, they'll come back after a while.

I, however, cannot defend Zilean's passive. It's terribad, no matter how you slice it.

Edit: It was bad BEFORE they nerfed it's global range.

Paress2 votes

Zilean's passive offers him about 1500 experience to lvl 18.

What if he were gaining 5% or 10% of that gained experience as AP ? 5% ==> 75 AP

or 10% ==> 150 AP

jDVL20eCYs1 votes

no

UdoIkOSc4u3 votes

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no

than tell me why?

Random Task1 votes

lol.

OverpoweredSoap1 votes

I believe they keeps Heimer's passive just because it keeps him from doing anything crazy.

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