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Season 7 in a nutshell

RexSaur··21 votes·3,214 views
  • Unkillable Poppy with 1 armor item (colossus, tank's masteries in general, her shield, her w passive, ->she goes from 150 armor to 250 armor lul)
  • Lucian/adcs that are behind not existing
  • Redemption's heal (wasn't so efficient in use here but still helpful)
  • Lee Sin outplay with R Q (after failing wardhop lmao)
  • Jungler being the highest level in the game
  • High mechanical skill from draven being completely unrewarded compared to poppy mashing her keys and missing her spells as a tank.

Like seriously, why play a high skill adc over a braindead tank? How did riot go to holidays with this shit in the game is beyond me, the fact is even if they completely removed poppy W active she would still be overpowered, thats how hilariously broken she is.

I understand that pre-season is time for unbalance, but please riot, do shit already to fix your game, dont be scared to give some REAL nerfs to those champions that need it (and items/masteries).

49 Comments

Troll for Trump14 votes

Gets two crit items, no lethality or armor pen

"Wtf I do 0 dmg, tanks OP"

Lives through most of the teamfight with sustain just through Warlord's bloodlust

"Tanks OP"

RexSaur2 votes

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Gets two crit items, no lethality or armor pen

"Wtf I do 0 dmg, tanks OP"

Lives through most of the teamfight with sustain just through Warlord's bloodlust

"Tanks OP"

Are you actually blind?

Like did you even watch the video?

Troll for Trump10 votes

Dude, you had PD and IE vs the Poppy, ofc you won't deal any dmg without armor pen. It's a miracle you survived that long just through Warlord's(Soraka ult and some heal, but she got poppy hammered and blown up by Diana).

If you build full crit, you will instadelete squishy champs with no armor(See Luc). However, if they have enough armor, they will obviously resist a lot of that dmg, unless you can either build enough AD to surpass that armor(impossible), or, the more efficient option, get arm. pen. Which you didn't.

CppL1 votes

{quoted}

Gets two crit items, no lethality or armor pen

"Wtf I do 0 dmg, tanks OP"

Lives through most of the teamfight with sustain just through Warlord's bloodlust

"Tanks OP"

Did you not see soraka behind him or what?!?!

Troll for Trump1 votes

uh

(Soraka ult and some heal, but she got poppy hammered and blown up by Diana).

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Previous1 votes

dread are u blind? LOL

Troll for Trump1 votes

Why... this post is 5 months old.

Ralanr10 votes

Huh...so is no one else bothered that Draven two shot Lucian?

Meep Man1 votes

That's not new.

Ralanr6 votes

I guess it bothers me slightly because it really puts into perspective just how bursty ADCs are in general.

Shifue Draven8 votes

needs armor pent.

RexSaur2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shifue Draven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Lvydp2Vr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-01-10T04:17:45.839+0000)

needs armor pent.

She had a single armor item, sunfire cape.

So you need to have 4 item adc (a build that costs over 10k) because poppy built a sunfire cape.

Alright this is fair and balanced.

Anidan9 votes

A tank's job is to come online before the ADC or else their job is redundant. On top of that, ADCs are (mostly) sustained damage dealers by design, which means that they need items before they can do much, and if they don't itemize properly then they aren't going to do well anyway.

Draven wouldn't have killed any tank in reasonable speed with that build, so pointing out that he couldn't kill Poppy is a wasted point.

Ralanr9 votes

Don't bother. No matter the logic you put in, adc mains will take this video as their bible of their weakness.

Anidan7 votes

You know what the worst part is? I mained ADC when I played. Even as I watched, I could see where Draven's build and skill did, in fact, reward him. If he hadn't been skilled he would've died far earlier to Poppy, or Lucian could have killed him, and so on. But his build wasn't going to punch through a tank that early in the game. He has no penetration and he won't have the Raw AD yet quite yet.

Ralanr3 votes

I'm glad you actually have some common sense. Everyone else I talk to about seems to think they shouldn't need item 3036 or item 3033 because it offers no stats against squishy targets.

I mean, you shouldn't have an item that gives you an edge against tanks while not sacrificing anything against squishies. Tanks are suppose to be harder to kill after all.

Shifue Draven3 votes

Also you really dont have any damage or enough crit for it to matter building ie first is fine but it's not effective. I mean you got that and phantom dancer and swifties. You know tanks are meant to counter damage right? A armor pent build is not 10k it's not hard to get ldr or mr as they are great for shredding tanks or ghost blade. I mean i don't see how playing a tank is braindead as they are doing the intended job. ADC are not ment to kill everything this is kinda like saying a adc should not be beaten by yasuo tossing up his windwall.

CloudedLogic1 votes

ADC are not ment to kill everything this is kinda like saying an adc should not be beaten by yasuo tossing up his windwall.

I don't come to the boards too often, but I am pretty sure that is their consensus.

Salron6 votes

I dont disagree but to be fair she only reached 225 armor on her own She hit 250 when she got a boost from windspeakers

And Lee killing Draven is pretty irrelevant since Draven was OOM and under half health He would've killed him no matter what

Cowseed5 votes

the fact is even if they completely removed poppy W active she would still be overpowered

Are you high. The active didn't do jack in that vid. I think you mean the PASSIVE!

Also. Draven had no armor pen.

RexSaur4 votes

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Are you high. The active didn't do jack in that vid. I think you mean the PASSIVE!

This is exactly what i meant.

Shes like one of the biggest ball of the stats the game has ever seen.

%hp, % armor % mr % movespeed steroids, %hp damage, multiple CC's and high base damages, like what in the fuck.

Anidan8 votes

You wanna know what's funny?

No she isn't. This game has seen worse ball of stats champions.

RocketRelm2 votes

This looks like a job for our internet savior. Trundle

ZT Xperimentor4 votes

Oh noes, marksmen are finally replaceable, like the rest of the roster has been for the past 7 years.

Fefnil4 votes
  • Unkillable Poppy with 1 armor item (colossus, tank's masteries in general, her shield, her w passive, ->she goes from 150 armor to 250 armor lul)

What are you talking about? I actually see an unkillable Draven which shouldn't be because: A) He's a not-dueling adc at lv 11 trying to duel (only having Soraka keeping him alive) a fighter-build Poppy (which is a tank with a high dps and a good dueler, having way higher base stats by design) 2 levels higher. B) He only has 1 dueling item (PD), with no specific tank-shredding and no sustain item (only Warlord?), while Poppy had SV + 3 CPotions.

The argue on this match is totally the opposite of what you're pointing out. Poppy should win 24/7 in a match like this. The fact that Draven was able to keep up is the real problem (and a result of last seasons balance choices).

Edge of Daybreak3 votes

It needed a fizz ult flying to hit someone it looked like it missed.

RexSaur2 votes

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It needed a fizz ult flying to hit someone it looked like it missed.

Fizz is not even good though, the ult hitbox is the only thing keeping him from trash tier.

Salron4 votes

It's not even about him being good though Lack of Clarity on his ult just sucks

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

But for comedy man! It would have made me laugh a bit more :( Watching fizz ult snap to people is just funny.

AMYS GRAVE3 votes

I understand that pre-season is time for unbalance

Season's already started man.

Meep Man3 votes

You know, except for Draven getting a kill... and another kill. Also, that Draven could have gotten the kill earlier if he didn't let Poppy E him into a wall so easily.

Ahristocats3 votes

poppy with 2 lvl ahead and more items, should have lost against draven

i agree

Azlagor3 votes

I find it wierd how you draw ' why play a high skill adc over a braindead tank' as a conclution of that... We have a 2-item draven that fights heads on in the midgame vs a 2.5item poppy and comes out ahead while casually two hitting the opposing lucian, and he didn't play it perfect, he allowed her to get an easy wall stun by poor positioning in between. It's certainly astonishing how long poppy survives, but at the same time, draven survives just as long with no lifesteal item, and he also has no %pen vs poppys heavy armor, and draven was never known for his tank shredding skills. Also, that poppy had 5/3/5 compared to dravens 2/3/3, so she actually headmore feed, and a two level lead, and she actually played it pretty well, getting her passive shields and useing her ult to turn it into a 1v1. The fact that a fed poppy can't duel a draven that's neither fed nor behind in the early-midgame is actually more concerning.

Not saying poppy isn't somewhat to strong atm, but this vid shows more how out of line adc are if they actually get played well and don't fall behind, as well as showing how little it matters wether you do well as toplaner or not.

Penns2 votes

Tfw she didnt even have Tabi

tanks balanced in 2k17 lul

NoSkillWrecking4 votes

That face when he didn't even have armor pen

ADCs Genius in 2k17 lul

Penns1 votes

Armor pen for the 1 armor item Poppy?...

NoSkillWrecking4 votes

The poppy with an Armor boost passive?

DoktorKaiser2 votes

It only needed a frozen mallet/bt/pd Yasuo 1 shotting the poppy at the end and it would have been perfect, still RITO get your shit together this is more than terrible...

McFatal5 votes

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It only needed a frozen mallet/bt/pd Yasuo 1 shotting the poppy at the end and it would have been perfect, still RITO get your shit together this is more than terrible...

yasuo does not 1 shot a poppy late game with any build whatsoever.

yasuo is not broken at all please stop

DoktorKaiser2 votes

Oh ok then that must have been some other champ 1 shotting my monster tank Volibear couple of days ago full late game...

McFatal4 votes

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Oh ok then that must have been some other champ 1 shotting my monster tank Volibear couple of days ago full late game...

volibear = poppy.

jesus christ i cant understand people

TheOvermind2 votes

So draven 2 shots Lucian and everyone thinks that he shouldn't Be doing damage to poppy without a last whisper because she has a sun fire ?
Everyone is just ignoring the issues with this game that are very well exhibited in one short and concise video and people insist that poppy being that durable is justifiable even though we all know that poppy is overpowered at the present moment ? God I love these boards and the hypocrites that lurk within them .

Ralanr3 votes

Lucian is squishy and therefore easy to burst down.

Poppy is a tank and is therefore meant to be difficult to take down. So much that it's required to buy specific items to deal with her.

I don't see the problem that Draven can two shot a squishy carry when he's going flat damage and crit but struggles against a tank because he lacks anti tank items. If he didn't need anti tank items then we'd have a problem.

And we know Poppy is very strong right now. We also know that she's getting nerfs next patch.

Karakot2 votes

what the heck guys I have no armor pen and cant kill the tank that's supposed to kill me before I can kill it?!?!?

McFatal1 votes

now imagine having to lane vs a poppy camille jayce and an illaoi every single game.

RexSaur1 votes

The fact that ppl actually defend poppy, lol i give up on this forum.

Even with hard evidence the silver tank mains here are still complete delusional.

Ralanr5 votes

If that's the case, why the fuck do you even come here? Just go to Reddit if you want people to agree with your circlejerk.

ModAcademy Kayn5 votes

Even with hard fact (no armor pen) the adc mains here are still complete delusional.

agbudar1 votes

this post tbh is complete bull.

draven has zero lifesteal apart from dorans blade no armor pen or lethality complains about getting a double kill? and the fact that with his build that is not geared towards murdering a tank thats ahead in levels and still ends up taking her down?

ffs people. the fact that this draven came out on top of it all and simply dying to some well known cheese...

holy shit

tyler1 is that you?

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