My team has flamed me in my last match for not rushing "ardent censer" as a support.
Can we change this stupid "support ítems that are aditional supports for the adc" already?
I really hope they try to balance ADCs in the preseason because the current situation is horrible.
Dirty Bastard1 votesWhen I support I rush Sightstone.
Ardent is mid/late game item anyhow and not early game and if your team does not see the importance for vision then mute them since they have no common sense.
Whenever I have enough gold to upgrade my gold item I do it as early as possible I also have enough to buy a control ward and make sure my ally has backed or is not in danger before I leave. Most gold items upgrade into a vision item so generally go that route to allow more utility to fit on my kit, and upgrading gold item early provides more gold overtime making other items more affordable. Following that gold upgrade its one more back early game finishing the sightstone.
There are far better items to rush then Ardent that benefit you team and not just the ADC.
No point in being that guy, the squishie support who is always dead so never there to assist with Ardent passive in team fights. I would sooner rush redemption over Ardent after I build vision any day. Nights vow is also a good pick as well as locket. Adds strength and protection for me, and has its benefits for the team and my lane partner.
Personally, I would go gold item into vision, redemption, locket, ardent and then your pick depending on situation ie, building either mixed ap and defense or ad and defense or just stacking armor etc. I played a game a few weeks ago and literally had 5 items with actives as part of my kit for utility and they were all worth far more then ardent.
KoKoboto1 votesArdent first item is always viable but their are situations where it's not as good as a sight stone.
For example, if your repeatedly getting ganked, sight stone would be way more useful. If your team has a lead already and can start invading the jungle, sight stone is more useful. There's probably some other cases but whatever.
I'm guessing that your team was losing, needed some wards in the river, and your ardent censer wasn't doing much. Maybe your carry doesn't work well with the item, Jhin? Maybe your champion doesn't work well with the item, Mordekaiser?
PePsiLemoNN1 votesImplies Ardent is too strong
I really hope they try to balance ADCs
LexLutheran871 votesMute the meta sheep, enjoy your game. Haven't built it in a while (barring onslaught), and have had better success on taric without it thanks to the extra tank item I can build.
It's powerful sure, but can be countered with hard CC, what is stunned can't heal or damage. Randuins is also pretty effective into it, and somebody packing grevious deletes one of it's passives.
Building ardent is not an auto win condition. Don't feel pressured to.
