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Aerothal3 votes

good for ashe! fuck lux. hate that bitch!

The Bearded Bard2 votes

Agreed, but I hate hexdrinker more.

Here's another where Hexdrinker is denying me an assist despite my spells hitting and the champion dying.

http://plays.tv/video/576e0c96558e6c9c98/fuck-hexdrinker

KONO RUBICK DA3 votes

so you're telling me that an MR item made an ADC able to survive to a mage?

nerf.

The Bearded Bard2 votes

If you're telling me that you think a 1300 gold item should let you survive a 5 item burst mage's full combo, I don't know what to tell you. It's not like this was a banshees or even a maw, it was a hexdrinker. Half a full item.

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

Yes? what the point of building MR if it wasn't the case? the player was just clever to build hexdrinker against lux instead of going full crit/AD/attack speed build.

and you got outplayed because you didn't build magic pene in late game against a target that built 35 magic resistance which isn't nothing combined to runes and base magic resistance, 100 mr= damage divided by 2.

DrCyanide1 votes

the player was just clever to build hexdrinker against lux instead of going full crit/AD/attack speed build.

item 3508 item 3085 item 3031 item 3006 item 3155 item 3072

It was clearly such a grand detour out of her way.

No MR until the 33 minute mark, gets the hexdrinker at the 35 minute mark. Bloodthirster at 37:42, the fights at 38:55.

DrCyanide4 votes

1,300g item vs 13,900g 5 items Name one other item in the game that can counteract so much with such a small price tag?

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Name one other item in the game that can counteract so much with such a small price tag?

So, an item has a unique function?

nerf

DrCyanide1 votes

A unique function is it giving you a shield automatically. No one's complaining about that.

A problem is when that shield does too much.

KONO RUBICK DA2 votes

my bad, let mages one shot you from 1500 range even if you built mr to prevent it, i mean what could possibly be the function of this item if it didn't saved you from being killed?.

DrCyanide3 votes

Get a item 3156 and fine. You spent the gold, you bought a counter item, you countered the mage, you live (and, in the right situation, the mage dies). But spend the money for it, don't just give out a passive that's worthy of a finished item on a component piece.

The Bearded Bard2 votes

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing the issue with this.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

there is a major difference between maw and hexdrinker, maw makes you able to survive to a mage with void staff, hexdrinker makes you able to survive to a mage without void staff, it's the same thing with ANY assassins, if they don't build any armor pene, item 3047 alone makes you able to survive to them, should we nerf it too?

DrCyanide3 votes

the same thing with ANY assassins, if they don't build any armor pene, item 3047 alone makes you able to survive to them

Shifting the goal post? Lux had Magic Pen, item 3020 + Runes, she just didn't have % Magic Pen.

I'd very much like to see a video clip of a 5 item assassin with a single flat armor pen item fail to 100-0 someone with their full combo and their target only having item 3047 though.

Maszii1 votes

QSS, could make the Ashe get out of the snare and run from all the damage

DrCyanide1 votes

I'd contend that is a little different, since Ashe is dodging the rest of the combo. This is Ashe tanking the entire thing with a half completed item.

Maszii1 votes

Sure but she wouldnt die :p.

Critmaster Garen6 votes

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so you're telling me that an MR item made an ADC able to survive to a mage?

nerf.

that lux had a dcap with more than 500 ap though and had a level on that ashe. the ashe had nothing more than a hexdrinker to defend herself. its a bit silly that this alone is enough to survive a full chain of a burst mage to the face. including a ludens proc.

maybe they should make the hexdrinker shield scale with mr, like maw does.

Quepha1 votes

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its a bit silly that this alone is enough to survive a full chain of a burst mage to the face.

Not really. All you have to do is land one skillshot to unload the full burst (well, not the FULL burst, without auto attacking Lux is wasting 2 passive applications) and Lux's range means she's at almost no risk every time she fires off the Q. Dealing 90% of the target's damage at that range is already incredibly valuable.

Ralanr2 votes

What the hell?

Zarkkast2 votes

Better buff void staff.

Oh wait.

The Bearded Bard4 votes

Bruh, she's got 35 MR from item. I've got 23 flat pen from items and runes.

Void staff is for killing tanks, not for killing ADC's that buy half an MR item.

Maszii3 votes

She also has 30 base MR. And maybe scaling MR runes. Plus the shield absorbs roughly around 250 magic damage

Zarkkast2 votes

That Ashe probably has 90 MR with scaling runes.

Also, no, void is not for killing tanks. It's 35% magic penetration, not bonus magic penetration. It's equivalent to Sorcerer's Shoes and Liandrys if the target has measly 40 MR.

Maszii2 votes

Also better tell Bjergsen he shouldnt be buying Void second on LB like he always does, cus its required to kill tanks.

DrCyanide1 votes

Ashe had 5x +1.34 MR Runes (flat) 6.7 MR from Runes + 30 MR base + 35 MR hexdrinker = 71.7 MR

Zarkkast1 votes

Void staff would've still killed her.

AsphodelNext2 votes

Meh, throw in a single auto and she's more than dead. It was a close call, but you're trying to 100-0 her without any help; even on the squishiest member of the team, it's still sort of a tall order, and you knocked her down to like <100 health.

Another thing is they nerfed Zhonyas while making it cheaper. So Zhonyas isn't quite the item it once was, in terms of burstiness; now it has less AP than Void Staff.

Kodyack1 votes

you didn't have void staff and only had pen boots, and you're surprised someone survived? Janna also had a locket, you should have gotten a void staff JUST for that.

yes, it's sorta annoying that void staff is so ridiculously required by champions like lux, but it's a thing that IS required, you simply just didn't have it.

even then, she NEARLY died, replace any of your items with void and she does.

look mate, I don't like hexdrinker that much either, but you didn't have a set-up for dealing with magic resist, she had magic resist. Working as intended.

Maszii1 votes

Funny thing is build would have been cheaper XD

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

she would have died if you'd chosen damage over safety on an artillery mage

item 3157 git rek'd lux

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

and a lee sin shield. ANd lux didn't AA

The Bearded Bard1 votes

If you'll actually watch the video, you'll see that Lee Sin doesn't shield Ashe until about a second after all the damage goes off.

The Bearded Bard1 votes

So many ADC mains in this thread.

PhDs Nuts1 votes

You didn't proc your last passive =P

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