Why do you guys keep asking for Nocturne buffs

Curling Veigar·Sep 20, 2015·3 votes·712 views

like seriously this guy is already really annoying. not enough people play him to realize it sadly.

reksai was nerfed to dirt (but is still good) so she isn't a "better version of nocturne"

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KikirinoSep 20, 20152 votes

If only these people realized how powerful Nocturne is. Top tier jungle pick right now.

JefftiffySep 20, 20151 votes

Because literally Rek'Sai is a better nocturne. Even after the nerfs. Their kit is almost exactly the same except she gets 3 extra abilities.

Curling VeigarSep 20, 20151 votes

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Because literally Rek'Sai is a better nocturne. Even after the nerfs. Their kit is almost exactly the same except she gets 3 extra abilities.

Does she have a spellshield?

If not, she will never be a better nocturne.

JefftiffySep 20, 20151 votes

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Does she have a spellshield?

If not, she will never be a better nocturne.

So you are saying that her chasing someone down with Q then knocking them up using a gapcloser and unloading is different just because she doesn't have a spell shield and has a more flexible ult? Nocturne literally does the same thing minus the gapcloser and only has a spellshield and fear to make up for it. Both of which are kind of meh abilities.

OnegarionSep 20, 20151 votes

No but she isn't a better version of nocturne. You can't compare the ults because when I hear a Rek ult I"m like "Cool still farming." Now when Noc ults I'm shitting bricks and making sure my team is together and under tower. That and his spellshield lets him keep up with you

JefftiffySep 20, 20151 votes

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No but she isn't a better version of nocturne. You can't compare the ults because when I hear a Rek ult I"m like "Cool still farming." Now when Noc ults I'm shitting bricks and making sure my team is together and under tower. That and his spellshield lets him keep up with you

Except you kind of forget nocturne can only ult you if you are out of position and he has sight on you. Rek'sai ulting means hug tower because now she is quite possibly in gank range of you. They both have the same fear level effect. You start to hug tower to avoid the gank. Except Rek'Sai's is global so if someones pings nocturne in another lane you can immediately not give a fuck about him.

Nocturne also can't gank over walls or at all without 6. I mean that alone makes Rek'Sai better for the same job. They both dive in and try and engage and blow people up. Rek'Sai does the job so much better.

Shroom JunkieSep 20, 20151 votes

I once played against a Nocturne tank with Devourer and he killed me so fast when I could barely tickle him, and we needed at least 3 spells to CC him because he had the spell shield item and then his normal shield. Not to say he's OP but I don't think he needs buffs.

JefftiffySep 20, 20151 votes

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I once played against a Nocturne tank with Devourer and he killed me so fast when I could barely tickle him. Not to say he's OP but I don't think he needs buffs.

I mean that's devourer. Not really Nocturne. Also a lot of them build at least 1 damage item and that's enough with their AS on spell shield, but still doesn't make him better than Rek'Sai. I have literally 1v1'd a nocturne and won by letting him ult me flashing back and ulting him so he gets stuck under tower and dies. Sometimes an abilities greatest power is actually a flaw. Especially with all the escapes.

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If only these people realized how powerful Nocturne is. Top tier jungle pick right now.

Except the whole not gank until 6 part, where he is actually worse than WW for that because of ult CD length and a much less safe early game. If I want a post 6 ganker I go WW, if I want someone with more presence early game for ganks in a similar fashion you go Rek'Sai. Nocturne doesn't offer anything more than either of those anywhere in his kit.

BureTheBearSep 20, 20151 votes

Nocturne is easily top 5 junglers right now. Double armor pen build means he's doing almost true damage to squishies and the ult buff has made him so strong post-6. He doesn't need more buffs atm.