consistantly instant reaction times=bot or not?

Valhalla Rising··2 votes·3,028 views

one in 30ish enemies I encounter seem to have inhuman reaction times I can't help but wonder how prevalent illegal software is in this game?

I'm not talking about "oh dodges at last second every time", I'm talking complex multi-decision making with simultaneous actions non stop.

OR are some smurfs just that evolved compared to the rest of us plebs.

or both?[sg-ahri-1]

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nm10102 votes

Once every 30 games seems unlikely, but there are plenty of scripters running around. I've ran into maybe 5 in 7 years of playing ranked, but now that I play aram more often it feels like it is higher. I get one maybe once every month or so, almost like they test the scripts in aram before heading into ranked. There is a cap on human reaction time, so if someone seems like they are reacting faster than that consistently they are probably cheating. Or if they do the "jiggle" where they perfectly dodge skillshots so fast that the champion model freaks out (not to be confused with minion block which can also do this), that is a dead giveaway to scripting.

Exin02 votes

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one in 30ish enemies I encounter seem to have inhuman reaction times I can't help but wonder how prevalent illegal software is in this game?

I'm not talking about "oh dodges at last second every time", I'm talking complex multi-decision making with simultaneous actions non stop.

OR are some smurfs just that evolved compared to the rest of us plebs.

or both?[sg-ahri-1]

Good question i was curious and it take 5sek to find motherlode of scripts and hacks it looks like xayah, riven, ahri and radar scripts are now hot topic. What is even worse is as you go thru that garbage most of it its YEARS old trash STILL WORKING at this day, this is sad and complete fail on Riot end. Now iam convinced unless is used so unsophisticated and crude tool that literally blows server they don care and make no effort to battle this plight. Btw for all that argue they never encounter this, go and look yourself not all cheats are aimbots and autocast there are other more subtle options to give you edge and many of them have options to include "fails" to not look so obvious or toggle to using scripts actively only in situations you want.

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Depends on whether it truly appears to be instant or not, and likely depends on the circumstances.

If you're perfectly predicting instant Ws from TF, as an example, that's absolute bullshit no matter what, since it's functionally random (It's probably based off of a timer set to a specific, very fast tickrate, from what others have told me, so theoretically it's possible to predict....but only if you were a computer).

Pyrosan1 votes

riot's generally very good at detecting cheating or anything along the lines so even if they are scripting they usually get banned within 10 games of it being active as much as it does suck that ppl go out of their way to do it lol

you can record any footage of scripting and send it to the support team for eval or msg them over twitter

Speeedy3 votes

your joking right? I know people who have been using the same cheats for 5+ years and still haven't been caught. Last time I talked to him about cheating he says that they use like a 3rd graders test as an anticheat. He said its so basic to get around that its a joke and mind as well not be there.

Pyrosan1 votes

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your joking right? I know people who have been using the same cheats for 5+ years and still haven't been caught. Last time I talked to him about cheating he says that they use like a 3rd graders test as an anticheat. He said its so basic to get around that its a joke and mind as well not be there.

i've never had a scripter in my games of playing since season 1 so yea go through your past 100 games and point out every time you've had someone cheating/scripting then tell me riot's trash at containing it lol

Speeedy1 votes

you really think cheaters are sitting in gold/plat elo? They are more common when you get to high diamond+. I've come across 1 this year so far that I can definitely say was cheating (84% win rate on the account in less than 30 games). I went back and watched the demo of the game because we got s*** on hard and it wasn't till I watched the demo in slow motion that I realized he was cheating. In a 26 minute game he(vayne) got hit with 2 skill shots all game (none in lane). We had a cait(me)/brand for lane. I don't care who you are no one is that good at dodging. I think I may have come across 1 more this year but I am not sure.

If you have no idea what to even look for its really hard to tell if a person is cheating or not. Cheats are so hard to detect depending on what they do. You could have a map hack and just see no fog of war, you have any idea how hard that is to detect? You can have delay reactions to make it look real like enemy launches a skill shot and the cheat wont react for .2 seconds before it dodges. Again its so hard to tell, look how advanced some LAN cheats are in CSGO you think some people aren't using equivalent in LOL you are delusional.

edit: FYI I think that less than 1% of players in this game are cheaters so I don't go losing a game and go instantly cheater.

Pyrosan1 votes

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you really think cheaters are sitting in gold/plat elo? They are more common when you get to high diamond+. I've come across 1 this year so far that I can definitely say was cheating (84% win rate on the account in less than 30 games). I went back and watched the demo of the game because we got s*** on hard and it wasn't till I watched the demo in slow motion that I realized he was cheating. In a 26 minute game he(vayne) got hit with 2 skill shots all game (none in lane). We had a cait(me)/brand for lane. I don't care who you are no one is that good at dodging. I think I may have come across 1 more this year but I am not sure.

If you have no idea what to even look for its really hard to tell if a person is cheating or not. Cheats are so hard to detect depending on what they do. You could have a map hack and just see no fog of war, you have any idea how hard that is to detect? You can have delay reactions to make it look real like enemy launches a skill shot and the cheat wont react for .2 seconds before it dodges. Again its so hard to tell, look how advanced some LAN cheats are in CSGO you think some people aren't using equivalent in LOL you are delusional.

edit: FYI I think that less than 1% of players in this game are cheaters so I don't go losing a game and go instantly cheater.

well yea cheaters get up to diamonds and i've been masters on euw since s7 and again i've yet to see one cheater you've only seen one the entire year as someone you can identity and you're out here preaching that riot's shit at policing cheaters dude lol

csgo's over ridden with aimbots and other shit but its excessively rare that you'll even ever suspect someone for cheating in league

league has over 100m registered accounts, it's phenomenal that i've played this game for 10 years and i haven't once ever encountered someone i believed to be cheating personally

you can hate the game for what it is but don't hate the game for what it does well lol

Darkdemon6531 votes

You'd have to show us a video.

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