AP junglers need some love..

SwiftKitten88··6 votes·712 views

TLDR: have the jungle items gives 10% mana on smite as well.

Right now most AD junglers have an pretty easy time.

the extra heal on smite for ANY jungle camp makes it much easier. but for AP jungers the gap has widened after the jungle rework

And No I'm not talking SOLELY about Nidalee

most (if not ALL) AP junglers have a mana cost built in self heal, where as AD jungler use life leech and passives for the most part.

the change of smite healing on every camp made it MUCH easier for AD junglers. (and did help first clear for AP jugnlers)

but after the first clear is over. AP jungler really just end up with MAX HP after every clear, but no mana. and we HAVE to use all our spells to keep up with AD jungler clears. and even then we arnt just "spamming heal for no reason" Nunu consume is huge damage to camps Fiddlesticks drain is also a main source of damage Nidalee primal surge is an attack speed steroid

the biggest issue is "lack of mana" in the jungle.

an AD jungle can clear with out mana, slower, but they can clear, ... AP junglers can't clear at all. AND we DON'T need to heal on every mob, we would like MANA.

so her is my idea. have the jungle items gives 10% mana on smite as well.

this isnt a lot... this is uslly enough for only ONE spell... but it should be enough to help AP junglers

4 Comments

legionnaire991 votes

Nunu consume is huge damage to camps it's not mana it that fact he needs a full rework Fiddlesticks drain is also a main source of damage the jungle just dosen't fit him like before it not his mana Nidalee primal surge is an attack speed steroid can we just let her stay dead and overnerfed?

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Nidalee primal surge is an attack speed steroid can we just let her stay dead and overnerfed?

No... we can't. well we can, BUT that "overnerfed" winrate stat still has to be at LEAST 47%, in my elo for me to be happy, (currently at 43.6%)... well i won't be "happy" but... it will at least be acceptable to me.

Erockandroll1 votes

item 1039 150% Base Mana Regen while in the Jungle

item 1410 Restores 18% of mana Missing when proced on a large monster.

I mean, seriously?

SwiftKitten881 votes

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item 1039 150% Base Mana Regen while in the Jungle

item 1410 Restores 18% of mana Missing when proced on a large monster.

I mean, seriously?

and it was fine because we used to be able to smite blue buff for 20% mana. then they removed that...

that's what that 18% max and the 150% base regen was balanced off of... ALSO having the blue buff smite...

you cant just take that part away and suddenly expect it not to cause an issue while at the same time buffing EVERY ad jungler by giving them a free heal (which AP junglers DIDN'T need because have have kits that heal them with mana) red buff smite was given to all monsters at 10% instead of 20%.. blue buff smite was just flat out removed..

the issue is we are spending the mana and getting the heal whether we want to or not the heal is part of our kit we its our damage, our utility ... and now the heal form smite is just stupid overheal when we don't need it.. we need MANA.

i will literally NEVER give my blue buff to mid laner now.. EVER. and an value Ocean drag over mountain. because frankly Mana is a HUGE freaking issue now.

i mean.. if i can notice mana being an issue on Nidalee ... SOMETHING IS WRONG!!! 3 out of my 4 damaging spells DON'T COSTS MANA. if there was going to be ANY ap jungler who uses mana and DOESN'T have an issue with it the current state... nidalee would be the one...

if SHE does... then it's kinda obvious that all the other ones are going to...

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