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@Riot Developers - I called Ezreal and I Knew it. Offically Leaving Game.

Deathfall··7 votes·2,137 views

I knew Riot Games was going to give Ezreal the mini VGU. I called it months ago after I heard about it. You want to know why? Years ago I made a comment to Meddler saying Karma's VGU put her in an even worse spot that the majority of the Karma community is not happy with. This was several years ago and Meddler made the ridiculous comment that Ezreal needed a VGU before Karma. The majority of us were very upset with him at the time and I never forgot what he said. From that day I knew it was going to happen because they went out of their way to work on art assets for Lux last year and it was only a matter of time before Ezreal was made a top priority.

I am not going to sit here and say Karma is more worthy of a VGU than a lot of champions right now, but I am going to say that she and many other champions needed a VGU or deserved a mini VGU before Ezreal. Ezreal has an identity in this game, he has a fully conceptualized theme, outdated but completed VO, and other things. Yes, Ezreal needs a new W and a new model. Unfortunately we have champions, like Karma, who received a horrible, rushed, and incomplete VGU 5 years ago. This Development team has used excuse after excuse to do nothing on Karma for the past 5 years. It took this Development team 5 years to work on her directionless and bland kit, to probably accomplish absolutely nothing when it does come out in a few weeks. The decision and ridiculous comments made by Developers like Reav3 and Meddler saying that a champion like Ezreal needs a prioritized mini VGU and deserves it over champions like Karma, Morde, Pantheon, Malzahar, Skarner, all the Yordles, or Shaco is ridiculous.

I have lost all respect for this Development team as content creators. I will not give a single dime to them ever again, I will not provide my love and admiration for their work ethic and game, and I will not spend the next 5 years trying to advocate work for champions like Karma, Morde, Pantheon, Malzahar and many others. I just cannot do it anymore. You say you care about all of your champions but in the end you have yet to show it. You have purposely messed up and failed the mark on a lot of these champions that the actual mains are not happy with. You have blatantly ignored so many problems and champions that need obvious work to do work on champions like Ahri, Lux, Ezreal, Jinx and other popular ones because that is what aligns with your favoritism. The argument that one champion is marketable compared to another is irrelevant. This Development team has the resources, creativity and time to put as much work as they want to in any champion to make them more marketable and popular. This Development team just keeps doing it for the same champions every year and creating content for them every single year. It's to the point that no one can no longer stand it when their champion gets ignored for 5 years and is told that a champion like Ezreal deserves a rushed mini-VGU because he is more popular and needs a new W.

Karma has no running and shield casting animation, her splash art does not match her in-game model, her original model 5 years ago was rushed and is completely different from what it was supposed to be, she has a directionless and bland identity and kit, she has no relevant or existing thematic that anyone can pinpoint, her lore is still bland but acceptable because it is vastly better than the hack-job you did before, and lastly Karma has the most pathetic VO and taunts in this game because it doesn't match up with her new lore or it already exists on a champion. Shen dance much?

I'm done. You no longer have the respect and admiration I had for you, Riot. You choosing to do a mini VGU on a champion like Ezreal is the most ridiculous and proof of favoritism I have ever seen from game Developers. When you think that champions like Karma, Morde, Pantheon, Malzahar, Skarner, all the Yordles, or Shaco doesn't deserve a mini VGU before Ezreal is very insulting and mind boggling. I'm not dealing with it anymore.

The excuse that "Karma was the very first VGU in LoL history, there are other champions that need a VGU before Karma, we just don't have the time and resources to put money and work into Karma anymore, and Karma needs a VGU." These are all things that you guys have said for the past 5 years and excuses as to why the work you did 5 years ago is acceptable to be ignored for an Ezreal VGU. No, it's favoritism. I wasn't even expecting Karma to get it. I was really hoping Shaco or another Yordle was going to get the mini VGU. Instead you give it to the one champion I knew all along was going to get it.

I said if Ezreal is getting the mini VGU I was going to be done with the game for good and I am keeping that promise. As we speak I am going to be having all 17 of my accounts locked to never play this game again. I was hopeful for the Karma rework but I cannot support this Development team knowing that is it going to be half-arsed work on her and other champions. I am happy for the Ezreal mains that are excited about this. I am happy for the players that wanted this for the champion. I am disappointed that for the past 5 years I, and many other mains of their favorite champions, have been so active in trying to get things done on not just Karma but other champions, to in the end have another popular champion get something done on them. If you know your work ethic and choices ruined a champion, you don't ignore the problem. You sit here and rectify your mistakes and make it better. I cannot say that about a lot of things in this game. 2019 is the mini Lux VGU so just prepare for it.

(I can respect your decision to down-vote but I would appreciate if you didn't. Thanks though.)

40 Comments

Psyrix10 votes

... you are letting ur bias get ahead of you, and misunderstanding the nature of what was meant. Karma is currently getting worked on, by one of her mains, but at the same time her model requires no update, while her skills/kit is still needing some identity and work, her model is still modern, aesthetically pleasing in comparison to the rest of the newer champions. Ezreal on the other hand is undeniably clunky in comparison. The only thing he's getting is updates to the model, and prbly splash art changes, and some modification to the W.

Would u rather Riot have Ez updated and Karma updated a bit later down the line or have Riot do nnothing but still have Karma's update slated at the same time? :/ It was confirmed Karma's getting worked on, her having a team work on her shouldnt mean other champs don't get their won teams that work on them.

Deathfall1 votes

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... you are letting ur bias get ahead of you, and misunderstanding the nature of what was meant. Karma is currently getting worked on, by one of her mains, but at the same time her model requires no update, her skills/kit while still needing some identity and work, is still modern, aesthetically pleasing in comparison to the rest of the newer champions. Ezreal on the other hand is undeniably clunky in comparison. The only thing he's getting is updates to the model, and prbly splash art changes, and some modification to the W.

Would u rather Riot have Ez updated and Karma updated a bit later down the line or have Riot do nnothing but still have Karma's update slated at the same time? :/ It was confirmed Karma's getting worked on, her having a team work on her shouldnt mean other champs don't get their won teams that work on them.

No I am not. I have talked with incompetent Developers like Meddler and Reav3 for the past 5 years about how much damage they did on Karma and champions like Morde, to be told that champions like Ezreal matter. You are delusional if you think Ezreal deserves a rushed mini VGU before champions like Karma, Morde, Skarner and many others.

So you are saying a model that was made incomplete with horrible decisions and no communication between the Karma mains is acceptable? You are saying incomplete animations is acceptable? You are saying that her theme, art, and kit are unique to the game? You are saying a champion like Karma is so great and amazing that the work they did on her 5 years ago is complete and fully conceptualized? You tell me what was so great on her VGU 5 years ago that is unique, amazing and fully conceptualized. Feel free to tell me.

Psyrix7 votes

I'm saying that compared to Karma, Ezreal flat out looks older. His kit isnt getting an overhaul.. its only his looks and a minor change in terms of the W, it's a VU...stands for Visual Update. Karma is getting a game update moreso than a Visual update. Something which inherently takes more planning and designing and internal tests than a cosmetic change, it's not like Riot has to think about how to redesign Ezreal's abilities, it's really only his LOOKS that are getting changed, to look sleeker and more modernized.

You are saying incomplete animations is acceptable? You are saying that her theme, art, and kit are unique to the game? You are saying a champion like Karma is so great and amazing that the work they did on her 5 years ago is complete and fully conceptualized? You tell me what was so great on her VGU 5 years ago that is unique, amazing and fully conceptualized. Feel free to tell me.

.....How about u actually READ what ive said, I'll actually quote myself:

Karma is currently getting worked on, by one of her mains, but at the same time her model requires no update, while her skills/kit is still needing some identity and work, her model is still modern, aesthetically pleasing in comparison to the rest of the newer champions.

Lets look at what I said again (i'll narrow it down if it's still hard to see)

her model is still modern, aesthetically pleasing in comparison to the rest of the newer champions.

So please don't go putting words into my mouth. Her skills might lack identity, definitely lacking in originality, however it is not in itself far behind League's/Riot's standards of healthy interactivity added to that IT IS GETTING WORKED ON CURRENTLY. Something you urself have admitted might be released in as few as two weeks.

What I am SAYING is Ezreal has a complete kit, theme and ideal that just needs visual tweaks. Compared to Karma, whose KIT, not model, is getting worked on... whose THEME was misunderstood in her lore update, thus required more work...of course theyre gonna take longer... added to that, with what theyre gonna have to change and add it's highly likely she's gonna get visual and sound updates. Ezreal needs less attention than that, so of course his work is gonna be finished before hers, it doesn't mean she's not getting worked on as, we have repeatedly said, SHE IS GETTING WORKED ON.

Deathfall1 votes

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I'm saying that compared to Karma, Ezreal flat out looks older. His kit isnt getting an overhaul.. its only his looks and a minor change in terms of the W, it's a VU...stands for Visual Update. Karma is getting a game update moreso than a Visual update. Something which inherently takes more planning and designing and internal tests than a cosmetic change, it's not like Riot has to think about how to redesign Ezreal's abilities, it's really only his LOOKS that are getting changed, to look sleeker and more modernized.

.....How about u actually READ what ive said, I'll actually quote myself:

Lets look at what I said again (i'll narrow it down if it's still hard to see)

So please don't go putting words into my mouth. Her skills might lack identity, definitely lacking in originality, however it is not in itself far behind League's/Riot's standards of healthy interactivity added to that IT IS GETTING WORKED ON CURRENTLY. Something you urself have admitted might be released in as few as two weeks.

What I am SAYING is Ezreal has a complete kit, theme and ideal that just needs visual tweaks. Compared to Karma, whose KIT, not model, is getting worked on... whose THEME was misunderstood in her lore update, thus required more work...of course theyre gonna take longer... added to that, with what theyre gonna have to change and add it's highly likely she's gonna get visual and sound updates. Ezreal needs less attention than that, so of course his work is gonna be finished before hers, it doesn't mean she's not getting worked on as, we have repeatedly said, SHE IS GETTING WORKED ON.

It's not. The model is incomplete and a poor attempt at trying to accommodate the needs of players that held her back. Karma has a completely different design from the original inception of the outfit and look. This caused the art assets to not be completed, the visual update to not be completed and look rushed, and for it to be not fully conceptualized and as creative as it should be. Don't sit here and waste your time and tell me that she doesn't deserve one because of the hack-job we ended up with.

I can care less about your opinion, twit.

ZephyrDrake3 votes

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It's not. The model is incomplete and a poor attempt at trying to accommodate the needs of players that held her back. Karma has a completely different design from the original inception of the outfit and look. This caused the art assets to not be completed, the visual update to not be completed and look rushed, and for it to be not fully conceptualized and as creative as it should be. Don't sit here and waste your time and tell me that she doesn't deserve one because of the hack-job we ended up with.

I can care less about your opinion, twit.

and we could care less about your opinion. What you are telling everyone here is that the easier and faster to do job should be delayed just because the harder to do job that requires way more work is of a champion you like? because it doesn't matter whether ezreal is being worked on or not. That won't speed up Karma's work since Karma's is also a lot heavier in the side of gameplay (her entire kit) than Ezreal's "let's make his W better". You can complain all you want about Karma and Ezreal. It won't make Karma's work come any faster

Deathfall1 votes

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and we could care less about your opinion. What you are telling everyone here is that the easier and faster to do job should be delayed just because the harder to do job that requires way more work is of a champion you like? because it doesn't matter whether ezreal is being worked on or not. That won't speed up Karma's work since Karma's is also a lot heavier in the side of gameplay (her entire kit) than Ezreal's "let's make his W better". You can complain all you want about Karma and Ezreal. It won't make Karma's work come any faster

Nope it won't. Lux mini VGU 2019. I can do whatever I want and I can insult any Developer I want. Reav3, Ghostcrawler and Meddler are all incompetent, bias, spineless Developers that only care about the same champions every year.

Psyrix1 votes

I'm confused as to why you are so angry... cuz it seems like u want yet another rushed hackjob :/ ur highly implying u want whatever Karma's team currently has to b e dropped to live rn/soon no matter how incomplete it is :/ correct me if I'm wrong :)

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Nope it won't. Lux mini VGU 2019. I can do whatever I want and I can insult any Developer I want. Reav3, Ghostcrawler and Meddler are all incompetent, bias, spineless Developers that only care about the same champions every year.

you can do whatever you want. All it means is that nobody is going to take you seriously, everyone is going to ignore you and then you will get kicked when people grow tried of hearing you speak nonsense. It's up to you, if you want anyone to take you with any amount of seriousness or if you want to be a joke that people would just take a quick laugh at before discarding you like used tissue

Psyrix1 votes

Because I totalllyyyyyyyy said she doesn't deserve one at all, Reading-Comprehension gets a solid 10/10 from this one. hint: that was sarcasm. And yes, ik I'm prodding the bear, and that two wrongs don't make a right, just hoping that this will finally get you to realize what I've actually said.

ZephyrDrake8 votes

seems like a you problem... we'll see you in a week regardless. They already said that they are working on Karma so no idea why you are even complaining other than to look really dumb

Deathfall2 votes

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seems like a you problem... we'll see you in a week regardless. They already said that they are working on Karma so no idea why you are even complaining other than to look really dumb

Do you think that the work they are going to do on her is going to matter and make a difference? It is going to be a .25 increase on her Mantra shield that will be nerfed in 3 months. It's going to be nothing more than a buff to her shields and no actual work done on her kit to solve problems and make her more unique. That isn't even tackling the vast amounts of thematic and art problems she has. Yet alone her direction in the game and lore.

ZephyrDrake4 votes

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Do you think that the work they are going to do on her is going to matter and make a difference? It is going to be a .25 increase on her Mantra shield that will be nerfed in 3 months. It's going to be nothing more than a buff to her shields and no actual work done on her kit to solve problems and make her more unique. That isn't even tackling the vast amounts of thematic and art problems she has. Yet alone her direction in the game and lore.

once again, it's a you problem. Sorry but just leave and stop wasting time replying if all you are going to be doing is being negative. You have no idea what is going to be done to her. Do you have a crystal ball? it's supposed to be REWORK so it's going to be more than a simple shield buff

Eedat7 votes

Dafuq? Ezreal desperately needs some sort of Gameplay update. All Ezreal does is find a new combination of items/runes to break a few times per year and gets them gutted for everyone. He needs changes so he stops ruining things for everyone else

theChibiTina1 votes

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Dafuq? Ezreal desperately needs some sort of Gameplay update. All Ezreal does is find a new combination of items/runes to break a few times per year and gets them gutted for everyone. He needs changes so he stops ruining things for everyone else

The main reason Ezreal can find is way into any meta is because his kit is so cookie cutter basic and I'm fine with that. I love Ez. If they do want to rework anything in his though, it should be his W. As far as updating his visuals, I'll be okay with it as long as SG Ez is still the anime dancing pretty boy I love. Lol. :D

chipndip16 votes

  1. They've done a visual update + minor game play update for one yordle (Trist, the best one) and a full vgu of another one (Poppy, the other best one). So it's not like they don't care about yordle champs.

  2. Morde WAS mini-reworked already. Full VGU is down the line.

  3. Nunu is the next VGU on the list, then Kayle. Those are strong candidates for udpates, are they not? I don't see how that's favoritism.

  4. I've made multiple threads questioning Riot's decision to stay away from working on Enchanters. No one gives a shit up to this point, anyhow. Idk, man. It's not Riot favoring some champs more than Riot shunning Enchanters. If your problem is Morde and Panth, their time will come. If your problem is KARMA...you should save your breathe.

Deathfall2 votes

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  1. They've done a visual update + minor game play update for one yordle (Trist, the best one) and a full vgu of another one (Poppy, the other best one). So it's not like they don't care about yordle champs.

  2. Morde WAS mini-reworked already. Full VGU is down the line.

  3. Nunu is the next VGU on the list, then Kayle. Those are strong candidates for udpates, are they not? I don't see how that's favoritism.

  4. I've made multiple threads questioning Riot's decision to stay away from working on Enchanters. No one gives a shit up to this point, anyhow. Idk, man. It's not Riot favoring some champs more than Riot shunning Enchanters. If your problem is Morde and Panth, their time will come. If your problem is KARMA...you should save your breathe.

Exactly. People think I am trying to say Karma deserves it more than anyone. No. I don't think she deserves a visual update over a lot of champions, but Ezreal isn't one of them. They picked Ezreal, like they did with the Lux VO update last year, for the sheer fact that he is more popular. It's not because he deserved it or requires it. It was a bias choice because they don't care about anything but the same crap every year.

Amumu Corki Lulu Teemo Ziggs VeigarHeimerdinger Gnar - We were told that all Yordles would be worked on to make them look more in-line with what Tristana and Poppy look like today. Where is that?

Shaco - We were told they could do a lot with the Demonic Jester theme. Where is that?

Pantheon - We were told he needed a visual update. Where is it?

Karma - We were told, by Reav3, that she needs another VGU. Where is it?

Mordekaiser - We were told his VGU didn't hit the mark and was a missed opportunity. They would come back to him. Where is it?

Skarner - We were told his VGU was not successful and they don't know what he is supposed to be or doing. They said they would come back to him very soon. Where is it?

You want to know where all of that is? On shit like this: Azir Kalista Lux Ryze Ahri Ezreal

MasterDClone1 votes

Oh please god don't let riot near shaco again the last time was brutal enough can they please for the love of god not ruin him again.

Lintu Puck2 votes

Yordles - That will take time to roll them all out. From picking which ones to do first, to choosing whether or not to try like 2 big bundles as part of a big Bandle City update, to doing all the skins, right down to the main little details of each personality and model.

Shaco - A lot could be done, but again they have to decide WHICH things to use and see how everything firs together.

Pantheon - Again, making all the detail choices, and whether to do it now or later.

Karma & Morde & Skarner - they "messed up" once before, so they might be a little more cautious before touching either again.

Azir/Kalista/Lux/Ryze/Ahri/Ezreal - they came up with solid ideas/events/updates faster than the others. It doesn't mean the others are being ignore. It just means that Riot was able to think up and implement the ideas for these guys a lot sooner then the others.

chipndip12 votes

You say this like Ezreal doesn't look absolutely horrendous.

You say this like Morde and Skarner weren't mini-reworked BEFORE Ezreal.

You say this like Riot hasn't specifically stated that they've given up on balancing Azir/Kalista/Ryze beyond pro play for the time being for the sole sake of putting that time into other champs that need it.

I'm sorry, but it seems like this is a Karma problem you're masking as something bigger. Just be honest with the fact that you want Karma to be the next champion Riot gets to and not "one of the next few" since you feel like you've waited long enough. Be honest. You're not fooling me.

MagicFlyingLlama5 votes

Karma looks fine, Ezreal looks godawful.

Riot made the choice any unbiased observer would make.

Deathfall3 votes

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Karma looks fine, Ezreal looks godawful.

Riot made the choice any unbiased observer would make.

Models do not match splash-art, Mantle of Decorum no longer relevant in her lore, no shield casting and running animation, model outdated in terms of what it is today, incomplete model that was rushed to accommodate the whining about her not having a dress anymore, VO that doesn't match anything and never really was completed, directionless kit and thematic that no one can pin-point, taunts and VO that existing on other champions, no interactions with other champions, and almost all of the Karma mains do not like her kit, identity, art, and many other things. I am not talking about your Karma main that started playing the game during the Ardent Censor meta or when Karma's Mantra E was ridiculous to play against. I am talking about these die hard Karma fans that have been creating threads for the past 5 years asking for something to be completed on her because of this Development team's work ethic.

You cannot even compare Ezreal to Karma because what was left on him and is going to be left on him in his undeserving VGU, is iconic to him. Everything on Karma was removed for half-arsed work. Don't tell me Karma looks fine. Karma is a mess. Delusional moron.

MagicFlyingLlama4 votes

Great, so you are going to resort to pathetic insults to defend your completely subjective opinion. Angling for a ban?

Incidentally, Karma is my 3rd most played champion at M7, and i dont play Ez at all. Hardly biased, and i do not deal in subjective opinions, only objective facts. You do not seem to understand the difference, like most small-minded people.

Deathfall2 votes

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Great, so you are going to resort to pathetic insults to defend your completely subjective opinion. Angling for a ban?

Incidentally, Karma is my 3rd most played champion at M7, and i dont play Ez at all. Hardly biased, and i do not deal in subjective opinions, only objective facts. You do not seem to understand the difference, like most small-minded people.

MagicalFlyingLlama. Enough said.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

I use this username because it triggers raging brats, like yourself. Working fine for about a decade now.

Deathfall3 votes

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Karma looks fine, Ezreal looks godawful.

Riot made the choice any unbiased observer would make.

Not really. They made the decision because he sells better and is more marketable. Get over yourself.

FOR JUSTICE5 votes

In all fairness in ezreals case its because he found a way into the meta every single time by abusing another item.

There are very few instances where he actually wasnt at least a decent pick.

Being meta a few times is a sign of being strong, but being meta every season is a sign of an unhealthy kit.

Fízz v23 votes

I kinda agree tbh, why Ezreal before actually outdated champs?

Deathfall1 votes

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I kinda agree tbh, why Ezreal before actually outdated champs?

Thank you. I don't even care that it is Karma. I care that there are outdated champions with already decent kits that really need the work or champions that they missed the mark on that really need it. A popular champion was chosen.

SithesisLord2 votes

Because Riot doesn´t update champions based on who needs it more.

If that was the case, Swain and Irelia VGUs wouldn´t have happened this year, but next year and Kayle/Morgana would be in 2020.

Riot updates champions based on how defined their new thematics and gameplay are.

Mordekaiser and Pantheon need reworks way more than Kayle or Morgana ever would, but the sisters are going first because Riot has a clear direction of where to take them in terms of theme, lore, gameplay, etc.

And this is applicable to Ezreal too.

DrCyanide3 votes
  1. Most actually out dated kits have bigger gameplay issues that need addressing at the same time. (Breaking items isn't an issue, it's a feature.) When you know only one ability needs changed you're off to a much easier start than others.
  2. They already updated his model/rigging/animations with his Pulsefire update. Yes, they can't keep all of that, but there's likely portions they can keep and unused development material they can pull on, making this less of a "from scratch" process than other champs.
  3. Popularity. He's got a high chance of being one of the first champs a new player is exposed to, having him look nice goes farther in making the overall game look better.
MasterDClone3 votes

I do agree with you that ezreal isn't more important than plenty of other champions and that karma is in need for a GU because her kit is quite boring with no direction. But at the same time the rework on ezreal is quit minor and shouldn't affect the speed at which the karma team is working at. I also don't understand why all the yordles need reworks, in my opinion most of the yordles have rather diverse and unique kits that fit their theme. I also don't see the need as to why shaco needs such a dire rework. Personally i love shaco and hated the last rework and am currently dreading till the next time they butcher him again in the sake of balance.

IxtaliKing3 votes

Deathfall... bro, where's all this negativity coming from?

Karma hasn't been in the running for a VU since her rework, that was never going to be coming soon. Not sure what Reav3 said exactly, do you have a link to the comment?

Also, Rickless replied to your tweet regarding what Karma needs and said Riot was looking into the things you listed. NeuroCat has taken over from Rickless and she's been a fan of Karma since before her rework, on top of all that, she's also one of the responsive Rioters there is. What more can we really ask for? Thing's like addressing her haste and shield animations are possible, particularly the shield animation as it already exists. However, a complete visual overhaul is unreasonable to expect at this point.

Ezreal looks disgusting and his W is absolute garbage, so he's a justified VGU. Let's also not forget that the designer of his VGU basically volunteered to do it, so it's not like Riot just decided he needed it more than anyone.

Deathfall1 votes

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Deathfall... bro, where's all this negativity coming from?

Karma hasn't been in the running for a VU since her rework, that was never going to be coming soon. Not sure what Reav3 said exactly, do you have a link to the comment?

Also, Rickless replied to your tweet regarding what Karma needs and said Riot was looking into the things you listed. NeuroCat has taken over from Rickless and she's been a fan of Karma since before her rework, on top of all that, she's also one of the responsive Rioters there is. What more can we really ask for? Thing's like addressing her haste and shield animations are possible, particularly the shield animation as it already exists. However, a complete visual overhaul is unreasonable to expect at this point.

Ezreal looks disgusting and his W is absolute garbage, so he's a justified VGU. Let's also not forget that the designer of his VGU basically volunteered to do it, so it's not like Riot just decided he needed it more than anyone.

I am done with the game and I am just not coming back so at this point I am going out with a bang. I just cannot support a Development team that cares about the same champions every year. They just don't care. It has reached a point in the past 5 years that amass to this. It's just a pile up of hate, disdain and ignorance towards this Development team that I just don't want to deal with anymore. I just don't like them as a company and I am just going to whine, complain, moan and groan until it is out of my system and I purge this game for good.

I'm one of the more active, and rude at sometimes and controversial Karma mains since the relaunch, and I am just done. I am just tired of creating threads to be ignored, I am tired of zero communication, I am tired of seeing the same content and reworks being create for popular champions, and just don't care anymore. This is what this Development team wanted so I am out and will be gone in a few days for good.

Please stay active, kind, patient and be an advocate for this champion. You are on of the good ones that the Karma community needs fighting for her.

IxtaliKing2 votes

I'm really sorry to hear that.

I know over the past 5 years Riot has been absolutely terrible in regards to Karma, but if you take a step back and look at it - they're at least trying now.

So while I do get where you're coming from and your frustration, you're only looking at what they've done wrong, and most of that stuff is in the past. Back then Karma wasn't spoken about by Rioters, questions were always ignored and seemingly no consideration was taken. Nowadays they don't avoid her; Meddler has been answering mine and many other Karma mains questions directly for months and he's even assigned a fan of OLD Karma to work with the community on her rework.

Please stay active, kind, patient and be an advocate for this champion. You are on of the good ones that the Karma community needs fighting for her.

Thanks, but you too... you've done a lot for the Karma community. Don't let your passion cloud your judgement, just because you're not getting the response you want doesn't mean you aren't being heard. Just because you've been downvoted doesn't mean you're wrong.

Just take a step back and cool off, then return when NeuroCat is ready to discuss her first iteration of the rework.

Vekkna2 votes

You think you want a Karma update, but just stop and think about what actually happens when champions get updated. The champ gets deleted and replaced with some balance atrocity that is frequently nerfed out of viability for anyone below diamond.

Karma's first update was like going to a plastic surgeon for a facelift and having all your limbs amputated by "mistake." The last thing you're going to do is give that doctor a second shot at the facelift.

Deathfall3 votes

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You think you want a Karma update, but just stop and think about what actually happens when champions get updated. The champ gets deleted and replaced with some balance atrocity that is frequently nerfed out of viability for anyone below diamond.

Karma's first update was like going to a plastic surgeon for a facelift and having all your limbs amputated by "mistake." The last thing you're going to do is give that doctor a second shot at the facelift.

I actually just want completed art assets like a running and shield casting animation. Is that too much to ask for? Apparently it is.

La Bello1 votes

you do know the Ezreal was leaked by a chinese Rioter in a stream way before Akali even came out right?

like literally two weeks before Akali came out there was a guy who said a Ezreal VGU would be happening before the end of the year

Deathfall1 votes

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you do know the Ezreal was leaked by a chinese Rioter in a stream way before Akali even came out right?

like literally two weeks before Akali came out there was a guy who said a Ezreal VGU would be happening before the end of the year

I knew it way before then. When it was first teased that someone was doing a mini VGU I knew it was Ezreal from the start. That's when I made the post I would be leaving the game if he ended up with it. I knew all along he was getting it. I was really hoping Veiger or Shaco would get it but nope. It was Ezreal all along.

La Bello2 votes

Ezreal work is way easier to do than Shaco Veigar.

Shaco and Veigar would probably need to be re-created from the ground up. Shaco is extremely unhealthy and snowbally and his kit often boils down to "walk up behind you invis and one shot backstab you" and even his AP playstyle can be frustrating to play against whereas Veigar is literally just a arguably worse version of Syndra niche the good ol "Delete target champion at the press of a button".

When you consider

  1. How extremely popular ezreal is over the others especially over the years
  2. Ezreal takes much less work only needing a new W

I think it makes a lot of sense why Ezreal got it.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

If they touch his ap side, other than buffing it to be better and giving it wave clear, im be pretty pissed if i cant play ap assassin ezreal anymore.

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