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This game ... is fked

GripaAviara··9 votes·834 views

1. Worst ELO system

Stupidly unbalanced ELO system. In a normal ELO system, the ELO points have a smooth distribution. With 70% of players in bronze and silver ... the game is nowhere near. Combined with a convoluted league system and a major "downgrade" at the beginning of the season and you have .. a spaghetti

2. "ELO Hell"

Before shouting there's no "ELO hell," you are right. But the game tries to simulate one.

After a long losing streak and destroying my Win-Loss Ration. I started to test the game's limit. And it's obvious as fk. After a point the game wants you to lose. You are teamed as the top player in a team that is on average worse than the other one. This is a huge problem in a game where every key point is important. So unless you pick a ridiculous hard carry like Jax, you are fked. You have to play like never before, and that is very stressing, not fun and not on the idea of a team game at all. When the game expects you to always be the best player of your team is not a good sign. You need to be weaker in order to learn from you teammates.

You end up a player that has 0 team play and team oriented logic. Hence why so many higher divisions are full of "boosted" players. But they are not in reality. It's the game's doing, where after a point you need team play to succed, but before it teach you to avoid it or that it doesn't exist.

3. Toxic Community and 0 fks given

So like I mentioned before. Suddenly after a long winning streak, I hit a terrible losing streak. Which was ridiculous. I felt in some games that I was even better than before, yet it was so uncanny how from a previous winning machine you get trashed so hard all of a sudden. I was going in with the mentality that the problem is me. But after a while, I had a mental breakdown. It was obvious as fk the teammates were the problem and that realization made me incredibly toxic.

Yet I never got even a chat a ban. The whole game system that punishes every little misplacement or 0.1 slower reflex, with champions and mechanics that favor individualism instead of teamplay (in lower elo), combined with a downright retarded matchmaking system that fails to create decent teams and you get a toxic cauldron.

4. Kiss ass attitude

While you can see from a mile the game has serious problems, Riot managed to gather an army of fanatics to defend their crumbling kingdom. Most never ever got higher than plat, yet they are top class experts.

This creates a circle jerk that isn't benefic for the game. Developers need to be praised when they do something right, but when something is wrong they need to be scolded

5. Terrible quality

Aatrox rework made clearly by an inexperience designer. A broken new client that you were somewhat feed to you to use with terrible bugs. Constant server issues. Still lacking a decent tribunal system. Lower champion release rate. Etc

The game switched from high quality to a mediocre quality.

Profit by any means

The game used to be great, because Riot wasn't all about profit. They cared about the community and always strived to deliver a pleasant experience. But with the game growth and probably more stakeholders at bay, it shifted towards getting as much money as they can.

Why is the matchmaking trying to get you down and slow you? Have you wondered why you dropped almost 2 divisions at start? Because it needs you to play. And frustration is a huge retention mechanism. And it did work like a charm. Since I hit the losing streak I played 2x more LoL. I wanted to prove I'm still good. And it made me play and play like a degenerate

Just watch this sad video on how Riot shifted into money whore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke5G7W4XTAI , you would never hear such things 4 years ago

**The game is in a very terrible state. And if you don't see that I'm sorry for you. I did my part and share my thoughts. Atm it's time to uninstall and hit pause until the game gets better, in a game that teaches and nurtures players and teamplay. The game that once strived to be. **

I don't know if i can stay away though since at this point is an addiction, by this time i will try harder

12 Comments

Mizuki Zahra2 votes

the worst is that its fed to bronze players that they will never leave and therefore you get games where people are like #420 #drunkoffmyass cause no one takes ranked games seriously in bronze anymore. ill get a first time trist jungle cause "this is bronze who cares" attitude and its just depressing.

Simply Coosh2 votes

This post is SO DEAD ON. It speaks everything I would speak. I just promoted to B4 and in B5 I was getting 19-23 points per WIN. Now I get 12-13 for a WIN, but if I LOSE, it's -21 to -23 points. How in the living hell am I supposed to climb with a 2:1 win/loss ratio JUST TO STAY AT EVEN LP?!?! No one has EVER come up with a GOOD ANSWER or a GOOD ANALYSIS of why this happens. By the way, my first two games as a newly promoted B4 had an AFK or Disconnect in EACH game. I could report these piss ants A THOUSAND TIMES AND NOTHING WOULD FUCKING HAPPEN.

The really sad thing about gaming today is I haven't found any interesting games to play. If someone could throw me a bone or a lead, I'd gladly throw this shit hole League under the bus and keep on driving....and that's for REAL.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

You have a right to your opinion.

Dragfin2 votes

{quoted}

You have a right to your opinion.

He made some good points. Pretty sure they are more than opinions based on some of the statistics he gave along with the same experiences I have had. Where are good points from you that contradict his? Typical forum troll and number 4.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

Very well then. Here we go:

  1. The ELO System: I've heard this argument before, and it still makes no sense to me. League does not have an even distribution of players, due to players not having an even distribution of skill. The playerbase is large enough that, the majority of players aren't highly skilled enough t rise above Bronze/Silver. And that's a good thing. League is a game, where you don't have to be good at MOBA's to still have fun playing it.

  2. ELO Hell Strange, how winning multiple games in row makes you more likely to lose the next one. Its called Conditional Probability. It states the probability of event A, based on the result of event B. Now, if you consistently win games,the probability of your next game increases every time you win. The inverse is also true. Also, if you go into ranked without the will to actually play your best, and try to succeed, don't play ranked, its not for you.

  3. Toxic Community and 0 fks given Toxicity is something Riot constantly works on. However, giving in, and being toxic, regardless of whether you get punished, is wrong. You want people to be less toxic? Stop being toxic yourself.

  4. Kiss ass attitude This I take offense to. It seems that you've already type-cast me into this. However, I'm not a blind fanboy of Riot, and I highly doubt any exist. What I have is patience. I am willing to stop, look at the changes Riot makes, and not freak out about the tiny details. If you want to talk blind fanboy-ism, go to the Blizzard forums, because you won't find it here.

  5. Terrible quality For the most part, what Riot puts is pretty good quality. In regards to the Aatrox changes, Riot was ready with hotfixes, as well had buffs for the next patch, should he need them. That shows foresight, as well as the ability to admit a mistake. For the Beta Client, the clue is in the name here, its in Beta. I do not expect it to be bugfree, and if you do, that's pretty foolish of you. Over the about 2 and a half years I've been playing League, the recent server issue is the only problem I've ever had. I don't know about the tribunal. Finally, regarding champion releases, its fantastic they have slowed down. We don't need cookie-cutter champs with random abilities every two weeks. With the current systems, champs with old kits, have time to be reworked, and all the champions that are released have amazing themes, solid gameplay, and good skill levels.

This game may be bad for you, but unlike you, I don't play League so I can climb the ranks and be the best. I play it because it's fun. I'm sorry if you can't realize that, and you think the game ensnares you, and forces you to play, but hey, maybe the game just isn't for you.

GripaAviara1 votes

  1. " League does not have an even distribution of players, due to players not having an even distribution of skill. " - dude ... dude ... with this you proved my point. Not having an even distribution of skill, you can't get to the current hilly downwards slope, you get a pyramid like curve, because that's how it happens when the input ("people") oscillates around an average basic number ("basically the average skill level to play the game) . Atm based on charts, people playing the game are so bad they can't reach a decent skill middle ground skill from which they fluctuate (akka having bad or good days, losing practice, etc)

  2. "Its called Conditional Probability" - you just said the point earlier that the game is almost 100% based on skill. But by saying you should average at 50% win rate because is all determined by probability and your wins were based on purely luck so now the chances are that you roll the losing side, it means you will NEVER EVER have a progress. That's the mathematical definition of an ELO Hell. Omg ... please take a paper, do some math and then act. It's pure basic game design math to know that you must never talk about conditional probability in regards to an elo system, because that's the whole pinnacle of game design in regards to this matter: filter out luck as much as possible and base all on skill

  3. Simply by using flawed logic like before to be a hater proves otherwise

  4. It's not just Atrox or other stuff. The client is in Beta but I was somewhat force to uninstall it and now I can't get rid of it without uninstalling. Even if they say is beta, that isn't how a beta product should act!! Anyway it's the sum of all parts, not just 1 stuff

Dragfin1 votes

{quoted}

Very well then. Here we go:

  1. The ELO System: I've heard this argument before, and it still makes no sense to me. League does not have an even distribution of players, due to players not having an even distribution of skill. The playerbase is large enough that, the majority of players aren't highly skilled enough t rise above Bronze/Silver. And that's a good thing. League is a game, where you don't have to be good at MOBA's to still have fun playing it.

  2. ELO Hell Strange, how winning multiple games in row makes you more likely to lose the next one. Its called Conditional Probability. It states the probability of event A, based on the result of event B. Now, if you consistently win games,the probability of your next game increases every time you win. The inverse is also true. Also, if you go into ranked without the will to actually play your best, and try to succeed, don't play ranked, its not for you.

  3. Toxic Community and 0 fks given Toxicity is something Riot constantly works on. However, giving in, and being toxic, regardless of whether you get punished, is wrong. You want people to be less toxic? Stop being toxic yourself.

  4. Kiss ass attitude This I take offense to. It seems that you've already type-cast me into this. However, I'm not a blind fanboy of Riot, and I highly doubt any exist. What I have is patience. I am willing to stop, look at the changes Riot makes, and not freak out about the tiny details. If you want to talk blind fanboy-ism, go to the Blizzard forums, because you won't find it here.

  5. Terrible quality For the most part, what Riot puts is pretty good quality. In regards to the Aatrox changes, Riot was ready with hotfixes, as well had buffs for the next patch, should he need them. That shows foresight, as well as the ability to admit a mistake. For the Beta Client, the clue is in the name here, its in Beta. I do not expect it to be bugfree, and if you do, that's pretty foolish of you. Over the about 2 and a half years I've been playing League, the recent server issue is the only problem I've ever had. I don't know about the tribunal. Finally, regarding champion releases, its fantastic they have slowed down. We don't need cookie-cutter champs with random abilities every two weeks. With the current systems, champs with old kits, have time to be reworked, and all the champions that are released have amazing themes, solid gameplay, and good skill levels.

This game may be bad for you, but unlike you, I don't play League so I can climb the ranks and be the best. I play it because it's fun. I'm sorry if you can't realize that, and you think the game ensnares you, and forces you to play, but hey, maybe the game just isn't for you.

It's a competitive game. I am sorry you don't know what that means. You wish that everyone felt the same that you do but believe it or not some of us were raised to succeed. I am very sorry for that not to be very important to you. The system is set up to keep you at 50% which is stupid. I would rather have good games and get beat because the team was better than I am and not because people like you need to be appeased and coddled so you don't quit. The game is not bad for me. The player base who are too lazy or just don't or can't learn to succeed are bad for me. Succeeding is fun for me. It's impossible to argue with someone who don't know any better about what it means to be a winner and to succeed. Please don't give me your life resume either because it's human nature that if you know how to succeed then you do so in anything you do.

The whole system caters to players like you because you spend money. It's a joke to the competitive community being this is a competitive game. We are minorities because of how children are raised today. Most are raised to try instead of do. They think life is fine like that yet will sit and bitch and whine they are owed so much for doing so little.

You have your opinion and I have mine. The lack of wanting to do better in a competitive game is something that I will never understand yet you think it's ok to subject other people to that way of thinking and by doing so ruin the experiences of others all the time. This thought process is toxic but the norm in the world we live in now with so many failures.

GripaAviara1 votes

Well thanks ... i guess

Hotaru is Waifu1 votes

i agree with toxic players completely

o0O Madoka O0o1 votes

Man you have so many arguments I don't even know where to start.

You have some good points and some quite bad ones.

Let me find another time to Edit cuz this gonna take a while.

GripaAviara1 votes

Sure :) I don't expect to be 100% correct, but target the 90%

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