@Meddler are the Illaoi changes coming to 6.9?

It's a superslow skillshot.. you can easily juke E...

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I seriously do not get the overall nerf. You want to change it, alright then, just don't nerf her. Her winrate and usability is alredy very limited, she's not a lane bully at all, it's just frustrating to be vessel but it is easily removable. It does not improve her gameplay, rather makes her far weaker in the laning phase.

60 sec vessel state, 10 sec per tentacle spawn = around 6 tentacles as you are planning.. 15 sec vessel state, 5 sec spawn = 3 tentacles spawn

It's a slow skillshot, easily avoidable, 3 tentacles? really?

Just think carefully on shaping her kit, don't rush anything. This champ is already super underplayer, no need to nerf it even more. One solution may be changing the speed at which every tentacle swing. This may actually sounds "a lil bit of both, nerf and buff", as you explained it's just a nerf.

EDIT: I talk as a Illaoi player, I play her quite a lot and as ELO raise she become way and way less useful since her kit define her as an immobile tank easily kitable with no hard cc;

EDIT2: just look her winrate from plat+ : http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Top (46%). Sure, if an unexperienced player wants to trade in her ult when Illa lands a correct E it sounds extremely powerful, but let's see in the right perspective: any player who have already played 2-3 times against her knows how to deal with her kit and ult and most of the top meta have dash/decent mobility to just avoid her damage potential.. Nerfing her E = destroying her laning phase, and since she's not a late-game champ this means completely removing every reason to pick her at all.

I play very often with her and I agree without this ability she is weak

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I seriously do not get the overall nerf.

It's not a nerf. The vessel debuff spawns more tentacles over a shorter period of time. A 3s spawn timer means the enemy basically can never stop moving and recalling during the period is impossible.

Her Ult needs to give her a shield or heal her the 5% missing HP based on how many enemies she hits.

An Illaoi ult takes a full 3s before any damage is done to enemies and it is easy to CC/Kill her in those 3s.

Ult Combo is (E,R,W) each one of those takes .5-.75s animation and tentacles is .25-.5 animation

By the time she gets to using the W ( where all the damage comes from) you have had 2s+ to react and MANY and I mean MANY champs can kill her in that time or CC or get away.

In a team fight if the enemy team has ANY hard CC she is dead before her ult can do any Tentacle damage.

So, losing your spirit no longer means you have to fight to get it back, but instead just run around? Will you at least make her "You're making good progress, keep going" lines play one third and two thirds of the way through the vessel duration?

The change sounds nice mechanically, but I worry about the loss of thematics.

Hey Meddler, I know this may have been asked before, but are there any QoL changes planned for her W? I love Illaoi but the most frustrating thing for me when playing her is the W animation - it can get really clunky/buggy/slow/weird when trying to use it on a target with multiple others around, and just in general really. Thanks for the updates!

Umm, I had a comment going until a misplace backspace went back a page (RIP me), but here is just one guy's thoughts. But basically it is the fact that the tentacles deal stupid big damage (easily close to 600 physical damage around lvl 18) and with destroying the spirit dealing ~60% of the current hp of the target. Why not have the test of spirit actually be a challenge for Illaoi to be in. Illaoi basically forces the target to run away to become a vessel, unless they are super tanky in which case it does not even matter. Something like Illaoi has a spirit come out too, and if you can kill hers first, then she gets stunned or something. Because there is almost no risk for such a punishing ability.

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• Killing tentacles no longer allows you to clear the Vessel debuff

Then you need to give the victim a different counterplay option that's in line with what Gangplank did (aka fighting back through sheer willpower and strength). Otherwise her entire lore and quotes are basically nullified.

From what I've heard, her biggest weakness is the lack of hard CC. I think an interesting (yet difficult) mechanic to make her more viable would be a stun with the duration depending on how many tentacles hit you. 1 second for 2 tentacles, 1.5 for 2 tentacles, 2 for 3 tentacles and so on. Obviously you could change the timings and everything but I think this would make her challenging to be great with, but viable if you're only average with her. Obviously added a stun to someone's kit might mean she would need some other slight damage nerfs/adjustments but I think this could up her play rate tremendously.

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Oh, couple of other things I missed, apologies:

• Killing tentacles no longer allows you to clear the Vessel debuff
• Tentacles are no longer prevented from spawning if the vessel is recalling

If that's the case, can the damage done to return your spirit not be based on the number of hits so champions without fast attacks have some counterplay - as the ability to remove the vessel is gone.