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Im not mad or surprised that my lane partner is no longer an immobile, paper thin, piece of glass.

Professor Ward·6/13/2018, 8:18:05 PM·40 votes·11,390 views

Sorry but being one shot by everything in game is something im completely ok with avoiding. Ill take this bruiser botlane as long as i can get it.

My stress in worrying about engage, peel, rengar one shots, etc. is almost completely gone. I can now actually play the game without having to 100% babysit my laner.

Had a look at ezreals playrate lately? Its not a coinicedence that the safest adc is at a 50% playrate.

Literally the only thing youre losing out on is late game dps potential, and honestly ill take that chance when it means getting to late game 100% safely every single game.

Removing the ability to be quick-bursted is one of the largest instant counters in the game, a TON of champions make their bones on the one shot, and im loving that this is killing that.

You watched it happen top with tanks/bruisers being permanently pinned there for maximum safety. You watched it happen with jungle tanks/bruisers for maximum safety. You watched it happen with tank/enchanter support for maximum safety. You watch these high elo and professional games, where safety is OBVIOUSLY at a premium above all else, and now youre surprised that botlanes utter fragility is being replaced with safety, and you shouldnt be at all. Its obviously obvious that this happens at some point.

25 Comments

Totally Not Jinx6/13/2018, 8:52:43 PM24 votes

Have my upvote.

Have it a couple more times if I could.

ADC champs being delicate little flowers has been the source of so much frustration, especially in games where they overestimated their damage and tower dove to their deaths while everything I have is on cooldown.

Like, I get that my job as a support is to help my team in the best of way possible, and that early on the best place for me is with the ADC. I can accept that.

What I am NOT, however, is a scapegoat for the ADC's bad decisions, or the rest of the team's for that matter.

Being able to roam before 15 minutes and keep two or more lanes stable feels a hell of a lot more rewarding lately than sitting bot lane and praying my utility is off of cooldown before my ADC dies.

Fízz v26/13/2018, 9:45:42 PM3 votes

Its not a coinicedence that the safest adc is at a 50% playrate.

it kinda is one tho because the main reason is that he is busted with tear items and doesnt build crit lel

Sasogwa6/14/2018, 3:32:42 PM2 votes

The problem is when ADC's are being balanced around "if they don't get oneshot, they have so much damage they dictate the teamfights 100%". It creates a super unhealthy pattern for both the ADC and the other players where it's kill him or lose, and it's both unfun for the ADC to get oneshot, and unfun for the other people to get melted ridiculously if they don't. I'm honestly down for a slight reducing of damage, but at the same time assassins that go full damage should be able to one-rotation someone that has no defensive items whatsoever - and it would be better if they didn't also have 10 skills to escape after that assassination -

Total Eclipse6/14/2018, 10:05:09 AM2 votes

I didnt really understand the last little bit but man that first half was a great read!! xD So true, good shit.

Jerry SeinfeId6/14/2018, 12:31:38 PM2 votes

the only way i think this adc itemization rework failed is that it failed to make adc more independent. By now the only adc i still play exclusively bot are jinx and twitch (ezreal and kaisa work just fine as midlaners). Twitch i've played in solo positions with mixed success (assassin build) but jinx is just so fucking helpless on her own. It honestly feels bad. as a support i NEVER stick with my adc, the champs i play don't excel at it anyway, and as an adc i don't want to feel like i need some loser walking around with me all the time. but as jinx it feels nearly impossible.

i mean what's the point of being an immobile hypercarry when i could be a mobile hypercarry?

Still i'm excited to play bruisers bot, i really enjoy Yi/jax/xin and want to try them out in bot.

Acheron166/14/2018, 2:03:58 PM2 votes

I Riot goes out of their way to nerf: Crit efficency, cost and power Ranged AD sustain Shield duration Marksman durability

Is it such a surprise that people just stop playing them? People playing seriously or ranked just want to win, so naturally they'll pick the stringest options.

The end results is that people who like playing crit marksmen can't do it, umless they are playing normals (where everything goes) or trolling.

Smitty Manjensen6/14/2018, 10:18:52 AM1 votes

Seems like we watch different shit. I literally witness oneshotting still in the botlane even earlier with cc lock, doesn't matter what you play. Plus 4 man ganks are now even more common. The game isn't turning better, it's still the same cesspool of shit with just different classes. You'll realize soon this is a also shit.

UnboundHades6/13/2018, 8:53:41 PM1 votes

Kaisa ?

LordGeovanni6/14/2018, 1:16:23 AM1 votes

Immobile item 3086 perma 5% movement speed and we build

Wolf and Gun6/13/2018, 8:52:58 PM1 votes

So um... I missed the point of your post.