Black Cleaver's 20% CDR isn't unique

FalconPawwwwnch·Apr 29, 2015·2 votes·912 views

Just thought I'd share

24 Comments

redniwediSApr 29, 20157 votes

It doesn't really need to be unique. Getting two Black Cleavers for the CDR is an epic waste of gold.

FalconPawwwwnchApr 29, 20154 votes

not really

You get 800 Health, 80 AD and 40% CDR if you get two of them on someone like riven

Plus, if you have two black cleavers, each time you deal physical damage you stack it twice instead of once

This is how the old one worked

djjomonApr 29, 20153 votes

But the armor shred passive is unique. So you can get 6 stacks in 3 hits. But no further shred than with one Cleaver, once at 6 stacks

redniwediSApr 29, 20151 votes

I think that's what he is meaning by "stack it twice".

djjomonApr 29, 20151 votes

It is, I just wanted to clarify

The5lackerApr 29, 20153 votes

UNIQUE: Dealing physical damage to an enemy champion reduces their armor by 5% for 6 seconds. This effect stacks up to 6 times.

Stacks twice? Someone's got a reading comprehension issue. Perhaps if, rather than assuming a reworked item works the way the old one worked, you tried reading on what was going on, you wouldn't come to some seriously stupid conclusions.

Old TBC stacked because some imbecile decided that making it a Unique passive was too much work. They didn't make that mistake this time around.

Deep Terror NamiApr 29, 20152 votes

No he means that it does 2 stacks for 1 attack, but still stops at 6 total. It's a waste of gold, still.

The5lackerApr 29, 20153 votes

...No. It USED to work like that. In the PAST. BEFORE the item was reworked. Because it didn't used to be a UNIQUE passive. But NOW, in the PRESENT, it is.

This whole time thing is lost on you, isn't it?

j jApr 29, 20152 votes

Lacker, you started playing in 2014. Really? Who knows if it will be viable or not over the course of playing I have seen ideas far more idiotic than 2 black cleavers taking off and actually being good. People will test for themselves.

The5lackerApr 29, 20152 votes

...One, the change was dropped literally 24 hours ago, so it doesn't matter when I started playing, the discussion is about the change that was made yesterday.

Two, been playing for about 3 years now, not sure where you're getting this "started in 2014" from.

Three, before the patch the passive on The Black Cleaver WAS NOT UNIQUE. There was a maximum of 6 stacks, but stacking Black Cleavers USED TO (as in, in the past, before the rework yesterday) apply multiple stacks per attack or spell. But NOW, because the passive is a UNIQUE PASSIVE, it no longer does that.

How about rather than sauntering in and being simultaneously dismissive and retarded you try, I dunno, reading the discussion first and looking up the basic, public information being discussed. For example:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/The_Black_Cleaver

Revised Passive: Dealing physical damage to an enemy champion Cleaves them, reducing their armor by 5% for 6 seconds, stacking up to 6 times. THE PASSIVE IS NOW UNIQUE.

j jApr 29, 20152 votes

I don't care if it says it is unique that's not what I meant about testing do you have reading issue lmfao???? I stated people will test things out and see despite how dumb it seems to stack it whether or not it could be viable. Good lord man. Good job embarrassing yourself.

Mandang0Apr 29, 20151 votes

^This is why building 2 BCs isn't going to become a thing. It would also waste CDR from any other purchases.

AetherKingdomApr 29, 20152 votes

No need to be a dick when you're wrong. You can test this by getting two Mejai's or SOTO. Every time you get a kill you get four stacks, but only one unique passive is applied.

redniwediSApr 29, 20152 votes

He's not actually wrong here. He's just a dick.

The5lackerApr 29, 20151 votes

Didn't realize The Black Cleaver was spelled "M-e-j-a-i-'s" Unless, of course, these are two completely separate items with separate rules relating to them.

You know what there really isn't a need for? Being wrong in the age of information. Literally all of the information it would take for you to not be wrong is available online for your convenience.

The5lackerApr 29, 20153 votes

Hey, I just tested that for you.

Custom bot game. Bought 2 Mejai's. Started with 5 stacks. Killed Soraka. Guess how many stacks I got.

Answer: I got 2. I'm at 7 stacks. You're wrong. Even about this completely unrelated thing, you're wrong.

Validate your fucking information first.

AetherKingdomApr 29, 20151 votes

I guess they changed it when they updated mejais, because it used to.

redniwediSApr 29, 20152 votes

I can confirm that the additional stacking effect has been removed, so you're really paying 3k gold for 400 health, 40 AD, and 20% CDR.

ProfDrDeathApr 29, 20152 votes

Which is - drumroll - not worth.

thinking manApr 29, 20151 votes

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not really

You get 800 Health, 80 AD and 40% CDR if you get two of them on someone like riven

Plus, if you have two black cleavers, each time you deal physical damage you stack it twice instead of once

This is how the old one worked

The people downvoting this comment do not understand that you are saying it will stack twice as quickly rather than stacking to 12.

SerevasApr 29, 20154 votes

Additionally the 20% CDR is also not unique on item 3165 item 3174 item 3110 item 3115 item 3050 item 3187 . Dunno why it would start being unique now.