I swear that Riot keep forgot how any crit items change affect Yasuo, Tryn,Rene, Jax, Yi,etc

ValiantKiller·Jan 25, 2019·2 votes·1,029 views

will be a nice add to to make them double toxic special it just got spread away from mana and such. While on other hand and will come back with stronger version of and ofcourse the easy crit damage from buying as first or secondly item since free crit and crit damage.

Season 7 all over again, i swear everyone will goes on forum and ask for nerfs for every one of this champions and mark my word.

19 Comments

IllabetheJan 25, 20191 votes

I'm pretty sure the changes are a revert for Yasuo..... and weaker. (2 item 90% Crit instead of 100, and Armor will do it's job as long as he doesn't ult you)

Yasuo has been far stronger since they made IE double crit rate, and loaded PD with all it had.

Spear is basically the same as Essence reaver is now? Except now they both have a 20% UNIQUE Cooldown, meaning it doesn't stack? Nothing's new here......

ValiantKillerJan 25, 20191 votes

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I'm pretty sure the changes are a revert for Yasuo..... and weaker. (2 item 90% Crit instead of 100, and Armor will do it's job as long as he doesn't ult you)

Yasuo has been far stronger since they made IE double crit rate, and loaded PD with all it had.

Spear is basically the same as Essence reaver is now? Except now they both have a 20% UNIQUE Cooldown, meaning it doesn't stack? Nothing's new here......

You get a free effect on it now which mean he will build offensive and still able to suck some damage out of AD and AP which sucks for anyone that just want to lane against him by all means cause before either he go defensive or offensive but now he will both.

And a 90% crit still much and enough to ruin your life special it will deal more than 20% extra damage on each crit.

And that is my point, etc don't use it alot cause it used to give a drawback which is mana but now it give HP it will encourage this champions to abuse the hell out of it and in abusive disgusting way . And trust me when you face one of this champions abusing the hell out of right now it, it hell special you can't fight them back due to many cc they land easy with reset

IllabetheJan 25, 20191 votes

You do realize the entire reason old PD was a Yasuo item was because 1) it maxed out his Crit and 2) it had so much attack speed and movement speed and damage mitigation, that it vastly shortened both his Q and E static cooldowns to the point where 1 item = spammable skills? The passive gave him 21% Movement speed when engaged with someone and the attack speed brought Q to a .65 second cooldown.

Both those aspects are nerfed to hell, and the AD/Shield are trivial compared to the crit rate it used to offer + the damage reduction it used to offer + the movement speed it used to offer.

Armor. Will.. Work. Again.

I already have face them. It's annoying but winnable. I'm saying it's more or less nothing different (ER didn't offer mana. It just offers mana regen)

Moody PJan 25, 20191 votes

Yasuo is massively nerfed by this PD and so is Tryndamere. 12% damage reduction is way better than that shield for them.

ValiantKillerJan 25, 20191 votes

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Yasuo is massively nerfed by this PD and so is Tryndamere. 12% damage reduction is way better than that shield for them.

And the spear for Riven Renekton with extra HP is good too, right?

Critmaster GarenJan 25, 20193 votes

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Yasuo is massively nerfed by this PD and so is Tryndamere. 12% damage reduction is way better than that shield for them.

i hope meddler works on steraks and atmas next. steraks to be more juggernaut specific again, and atmas so juggers can scale off building tanky.

we need them to go back being able to carry with 4k health builds.

darius and mundo are literally the only juggers who can afford to build that tanky currently because their base damage is just high enough.

on the plus side, yorick feels a lot better after his buffs.

Moody PJan 25, 20191 votes

volibear can too, probably cuz he can't buy much else but it counts. champ is making a slow comeback imo with game changing more favorably

atma's would be nice

Critmaster GarenJan 25, 20191 votes

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volibear can too, probably cuz he can't buy much else but it counts. champ is making a slow comeback imo with game changing more favorably

atma's would be nice

the new spear of shojin looks actually like it would be incredible on voli.

attack speed on ulting for more lightning hits per second, and each auto reduces the lengthy w cooldown. the health on the item just makes it overall nicer than the current essence reaver.

Moody PJan 25, 20191 votes

yeah i didnt think of that, some bonus HP would work wonders. might make some high-dmg voli builds actually work, you could shorten your CDs enough to make great value out of trinity force

RalanrJan 25, 20191 votes

Wait, wait, wait.

Shouldn’t Riot encourage Juggernauts to build 1-2 Juggernaut items then full tank? What good does given them several AD and health options give them? They’ll just build full damage, which is a problem from divers currently.

Critmaster GarenJan 26, 20191 votes

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Wait, wait, wait.

Shouldn’t Riot encourage Juggernauts to build 1-2 Juggernaut items then full tank? What good does given them several AD and health options give them? They’ll just build full damage, which is a problem from divers currently.

right. but different juggers want different damage items.

with garen id 100% want cleaver + atmas into full tank. nasus wants triforce. voli and olaf might like shojin + titanic better with the way their ults work.

just because juggers ideally work with 2 bruiser items and then into defense, doesnt mean we dont appreciate build diversity.

RalanrJan 26, 20191 votes

Ok, but what's to stop some juggernauts from just using more than two of these items? Even if they lose out on resistances, they may be able to put in enough damage for that to not matter.

Critmaster GarenJan 26, 20191 votes

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Ok, but what's to stop some juggernauts from just using more than two of these items? Even if they lose out on resistances, they may be able to put in enough damage for that to not matter.

theyd get too squishy.

whats stopping juggernauts from stacking ad items right now? nothing really.

and atmas is kindof obvious. it scales with hp from other items. so 250 health from shojin or triforce dont do a lot for it.

GlîtchyJan 26, 20191 votes

Akali shroud being nerfed is all I need to be happy

ValiantKillerJan 26, 20191 votes

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shroud being nerfed is all I need to be happy

They going to remove the true hide don't worry

GlîtchyJan 26, 20191 votes

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They going to remove the true hide don't worry

yeah that's the only change I need to be happy

ValiantKillerJan 26, 20191 votes

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yeah that's the only change I need to be happy

And hope they would cut down her stupid healing along aatrox healing

InfernapeJan 26, 20191 votes

Ah but on the other hand Yasuo no longer can buy PD and Sterak's or PD and Hexdrinker. I'd take it tbh. He can't abuse items to become tanky anymore.

ValiantKillerJan 26, 20191 votes

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Ah but on the other hand Yasuo no longer can buy PD and Sterak's or PD and Hexdrinker. I'd take it tbh. He can't abuse items to become tanky anymore.

That is always true