Conqueror: A step backwards fundamentally.

Radiant Wukong··1 votes·949 views

When I started in season 2, it was never possible for an auto attack based champ (aka a carry) Tryndamere JarvanIV MasterYi XinZhao Irelia Udyr Ashe Caitlyn Corki Quinn Sivir Tristana Twitch to engage a tank 1v1 Malphite Rammus Maokai Volibear Alistar Sejuani Shen Nautilus Leona Galio Amumu Chogath DrMundo and kill them with one exception Vayne because she could self-peel and dealt max health true damage.

For some reason, I forget which season item 3123
was removed from the game and tanks lost a vital item. item 3153 item 3072 item 3035 were core items on basically every carry, this meant that with enough attack speed you could out-sustain and kill tanks 1v1 unless their ignite was up. At this time, the only item that had grievous wounds was item 3165 which became a core item for all tanks.

RIOT realized this was an issue and after a few seasons brought back Executioner's Calling. Further common sense showed that building an EC wasn't item efficient for tanks, so new version item 3075 was introduced.

The game was fundamentally balanced again as far as engagements with tanks and carries went and then... CONQUEROR!

These used to be our options to deal with a tank composition Kayle KogMaw Darius Fiora Vayne item 3071 item 3035 or any fed carry with a lot of peel.

Now you just take CONQUEROR, pick whoever the hell you want and completely disregard armor penetration.

Malphite item 3075 item 3047 item 3110 item 1401 item 3027 item 3001 you better run, boy. MasterYi item 1419 item 3153 item 3124 item 3006 item 3046 item 3031 you better run, punk! Malphite HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DIE FOOL!

2 seconds later Malphite summoner 4

2 more seconds later Malphite has been slain

Death Report 85% true damage [slayer-jinx-unamused]

13 Comments

Moody P5 votes

Is this your brain on Wukong?

Alzon2 votes

Might need to check if it’s Wukong properly :^)

Frosted Tips2 votes

Why should tanks be able to 1v1 fighters? That fundamentally makes no sense. Tanks are a team based class. Tanks should absorb and deflect damage away from their teammates. Tanks should not 1v1 fighters who are meant to fight 1v1

Hayaishi21 votes

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Why should tanks be able to 1v1 fighters? That fundamentally makes no sense. Tanks are a team based class. Tanks should absorb and deflect damage away from their teammates. Tanks should not 1v1 fighters who are meant to fight 1v1

I agree up to a point. But tanks should be able to defend themselves otherwise they can't protect their towers.

Frosted Tips1 votes

I didnt say they can't protect themselves. But they should almost never when a fight against a fighter. They should pretty much sit top and get farm safely until their jungler comes for a gank. Maybe go for some advantages trades near tower and with a big minion wave or while the fighters abilities are on cooldown. But a straight up 1v1 should always be a loss if items are even.

Salvor Hardın1 votes

True.

ADC Yuumi1 votes

Personally if they lower the true damage conversion, that'd be nice.

Fire Blaustoise1 votes

And ?? IT was retarded AF. A tank shouldnt win 1v1 against carries unless far ahead (i don't mean marksmen here). As Wukong player how can you have this pov ???!!!!

The game was fundamentally balanced again as far as engagements with tanks and carries went and then...

your memory plays tricks on you. Tanks one year ago were BS.

ADC Yuumi2 votes

Tanks in Season 6 tho. DAM.

I had a 140 min game as Braum.

Fire Blaustoise1 votes

so dedicated*[sg-miss-fortune]* i would be so tired after playing non stop for so long :o

Hotarµ1 votes

Tanks shouldn't be able to 1v1 any class other than themselves. Their job is to lockdown enemy teams, soak up damage, or peel for carries. Why should a Malphite ever be able to 1v1 a full damage carry? I'd like to see conqueror tuned back a bit but that has nothing to do with tanks not being able to 1v1 people.

Moody P1 votes

well, malph/rammus are specifically designed to fuck people up, but I agree with your overall point

Daddy ReTaric1 votes

Tank shouldn't be able to burst you down unless you attack a rammus with thornmail, as you basically kill yourself.. but they shoudn't melt like wet paper either.. conqueror broke Jax, Trynd, Yi and many more. Irelia is busted and conqueror is part of the problem.. people just refuse to see it..This rune should never got implemented in the first case.. Fervor served the same purpose and it was fair for the user and his opponent. Now It's 1 sided murder without any chance to win as true damage is legit everywhere.

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