So, tell me how this is fair.

Niyumi··6 votes·545 views

A champ with 500+ auto range walks up, and right clicks on you. Within .5-2s, you just drop dead.

Now, while they do this, keep in mind that they are entirely targeted, their attacks are automatically aimed and cannot miss or be dodged, they have the highest sustain in the game BY FAR, they have the highest effective range outside of a few outliers (and by effective range, I mean doing full damage, not just poking someone with a long range spell), they have an item to make up for any way they can fuck up, they have the highest item diversity, they have items to make tanks and assassins (their counter class) irrelevant... Oh, they also have the highest long and short term damage in the game, by far.

So, someone tell me how that's fair.

  • If you say they're squishy, then I call bullshit. Lifesteal, PD, BT and DD say otherwise. You want squishy? Look at an AP assassin like Nid or Kat.

  • If you say they're vulnerable to CC, well, so is every other champ in the game.

  • If you say they have a weak early game, I call bullshit. Most of them have a 50%+ winrate no matter the time in the game.

  • If you say GW makes them weak, then I call bullshit. 800/s / 2 = 400/s, which is still goinna outheal literally everything but a one shot.

So, go ahead. Justify it to me.

And then we have the melee versions that do EVEN MORE damage.

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Casual Dude5 votes

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Niyumi1 votes

And... your point is? You don't have to be carried to diamond to understand how a video game works. And I've probably got more than 10 times your games all around (More than 10,000 at this point), so I think I know the game a bit better than you.

I mean, if you can't argue the point, then just don't say anything. It's cute that you try to resort to namecalling though.

Prove me wrong then, Mr. Diamond.

Niyumi1 votes

Hey, let's not hide the entire truth here. 55% winrate over 53 games, and a 5.37:1 KDA -- guess where I played every single one of those games? Not as a support.

But sheeple can't think outside of the flock, I know.

Rakan isn't a damage carry, he's a teamfight champ -- like Liss, who also doesn't do much damage, but has so much CC she's still a good pick.

LittleOak2 votes

I think you are right in thinking that ADCs are strong currently and I'm sorry you've had some rough games with them (clearly, I can tell you're a little more than upset in reading this post). You're points are correct and I agree with you.

Where I disagree is your bullet points. They are squishy. Those are optional items you can build and effectively make them less squishy, but they will still die if they take enough damage fast enough. Every champ is vulnerable to CC, and that's a totally fine counter to ADCs. You (as a team, not an individual - not trying to call you out) need to recognize that "Hey, they're ADC is the priority. Fuck attacking the tank, fuck attacking the Support (unless it's Soraka) and kill that ADC and win the team fight." Looking at your recent matches on opgg I see you're a mid laner. You need to coordinate with your ADC and your CC (whether it's top lane or support) and shut down that enemy ADC. You say their early game isn't weak. As a mid laner have you ever coordinated with your jungler to go and gank bottom, kill the ADC and then take that first tower at like 8minutes? It's a very easy roam, you should be 6+ and have a time. If you roam with your jungler and your enemy laner doesn't even if their jungle shows up that's still a 4v3 with you having the advantage. Greivous wounds isn't meant to be an "anti-ADC" stat. It's meant to slow the effects of healing. ADCs build lifesteal so I understand why the connection was drawn but it's not something where "oh just buy GW and you're all set".

The best thing I can say is two things. A. You play squishy champs in the mid lane. You are effectively as squishy as ADCs with less healing but many mid mages have a shield or CC of their own they can use, so that's where you even out in your squishiness. You shouldn't be fighting an ADC alone because you don't know if you put out that damage to kill them while they're cranking out their max damage on you and you don't have your safety net of supporting CC around you. B. League of Legends is a team game. I'm not saying you don't do these things, but you have to keep in mind every match you play you can do something about the outcome and you have two options just like in a sport. You can be reactive and wait for things to happen and then act based on what you see, or you can be proactive and make things happen. If you want to shut down an ADC, get your jungler to gank bot with you while the enemy ADC is pushed up. Ping your team, ping neutral objectives, you make the plays for your team. Become the carry. You have to be so good at what you're doing, that even if they place you with unranked players who just know the very absolute basics of the game, you can carry them to victory.

Hope this helps alleviate some of the stress and frustration. I know it's a pain. Stay strong, be proactive, and good luck with your games <3

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