Major design flaw with spellthief line and removal of sightstone

SwiftKitten88··1 votes·698 views

i have always hated the removal of sightstone, but as a support who nearly always wins lane.. this change hasn't affected me much.

but let me describe the issue

item 3098 requires 500 gold gotten in a specific manner in order to get the the sightstone passive for the item 3303 like that requires hitting enemy champions or the enemy tower with abilties in order to get your sightstone

item 3301 line requires u only pick up coins near where minons dies and item 3302 line requires u to last hit minions

and during laning phase this is fine

but when your playing a item 3303 support and you get a REALLY bad adc. it means u have to play passively. so you cant easily proc your item 3303

and then IF you lose your tower.. thats when the game goes to shit because

now... u cant ward.

you cant push your wave to thier tower to get procs on thier tower because that would be unsafe because your tower is down.

and your opponents are now roaming between mid and bot to help push mid tower while still coming down bot every once in a while to catch thier wave.

but you cant safely get close enough procitem 3303 without a tower to fall back to

you also cant ward BECAUSE u don't have your quest completed.

and u can place a item 2055 but wiout being able to defend it you will also lose it within seconds after u place it in any area where it can spot something.

this forces u as support o head mid in order to try to proc item 3303 on thier mid laner or mid lane tower

this then forces three people mid and denys your mid laner exp and CS. for the sole reason that U CANT DO YOUR JOB without the sightstone passive. which you NEED to be near an enemy or an enemy tower to generate income for to get.

it also means your playing blind becuase in order for this to happen your adc has to lose lane before i can finish your stacks for sightstone .. which means said adc is BAD to behind with. and likely isnt warding either is is going to die more if he heads mid lane.

its bascially turns the game into a lose/lose scenario becuase u as support cant do what u need to do without being able to ward in a situation where you already have a bad teammate

item 3301 users can safely stay at thier t2 tower and freeze while getting stacks as can item 3097 users

but item 3303 users CAN'T do this..

5 Comments

Katareener1 votes

Can't you just hang onto the warding trinket until you finish it? I don't really play support but I'm pretty sure that would allow you to ward until you finish the quest...

Illabethe2 votes

1 ward for 60 seconds per 180 is not enough to deal with junglers, laners, mid ganks, etc. And her main point was that a Spelltheif user can't protect a turret without losing 1000 Gold.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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1 ward for 60 seconds per 180 is not enough to deal with junglers, laners, mid ganks, etc. And her main point was that a Spelltheif user can't protect a turret without losing 1000 Gold.

this... although im a "he", although i get that a lot. i like cheetahs and im a nid main... so i thought "SwiftKitten" would fit

back when i played diablo 2 i played as a Fury werewolf Druid and i was "Furry Fury" because again.. wolfs are floofy and i used "Fury" as my main attack skill.

Illabethe1 votes

I should just default to he since that's 80% of all players, or so it seems.

SwiftKitten881 votes

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I should just default to he since that's 80% of all players, or so it seems.

"GIRL" online is an acronym for "Guy In Real Life"

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