You know the patch nidalee became a balance nightmare??? 5.2

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Prowl: New Effect: Can mark neutral monsters as Hunted, rooting them for 2 seconds

You know why she is still a balance nightmare?

Prowl: Effect: Can mark neutral monsters as Hunted

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Asayake 5150glow2 votes

If you removed this, she'd need huge base stat buffs to compensate.

Although this is the reason why her skillfloor is high.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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If you removed this, she'd need huge base stat buffs to compensate.

Although this is the reason why her skillfloor is high.

yeah she would need a full revert to 4.17-5.1 you know back when she was BALANCED... in LANE (although i wouldn't mind keeping the 7.2 traps) because most jungle caps don't dodge spears, or have minions blocking them.

when nidalee in in lane.. you ALWAYS know where she is... so you ALWAYS know where the spear is going to come from. (assuming you are properly warding) nidalee was designed to be in lane. when all of a sudden she appears from a bush and flanks you with her skillshot. it is harder to counterplay her if the nid is good

Cheetah Nidalee2 votes

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yeah she would need a full revert to 4.17-5.1 you know back when she was BALANCED... in LANE (although i wouldn't mind keeping the 7.2 traps) because most jungle caps don't dodge spears, or have minions blocking them.

when nidalee in in lane.. you ALWAYS know where she is... so you ALWAYS know where the spear is going to come from. (assuming you are properly warding) nidalee was designed to be in lane. when all of a sudden she appears from a bush and flanks you with her skillshot. it is harder to counterplay her if the nid is good

i agree althoguh i wouldnt for an 100% full revert

#General: Health growth increased to 90 from 80 Base attack damage lowered to 48 from 53

#Prowl: REMOVED: Can no longer mark neutral monsters as Hunted Enhanced bonus movement speed range increased to 5500 from 1400

#Javelin toss Cast time decreased to 0.125 seconds from 0.25 Minimum Damage changed to 50 / 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 (+ 40% AP) from 70 / 85 / 100 / 115 / 130 (+ 40% AP) Max Damage changed to 150 / 225 / 300 / 375 / 450 (+ 120% AP) from Damage: 210 / 255 / 300 / 345 / 390 (+ 120% AP)

#Takedown: Cooldown decreased to 5 seconds at all ranks from 6 seconds at all ranks

#Bushwack: Damage changed to 20 / 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 (+ 10 / 12 / 14 / 16 / 18% (+ 2% per 100 AP) of target's current health) from 40 / 80 / 120 / 160 / 200 (+ 20% AP) On-cast sight radius increased to 1200 from 400

#Primal surge heal reverted to 45 / 85 / 125 / 165 / 205 (+ 50% AP) from 35 / 55 / 75 / 95 / 115 (+ 27.5% AP) Removed: Increases heal by 1% for 1% of the target's missing health, for a maximum of 50 / 90 / 130 / 170 / 210 (+ 55% AP).

#Pounce Added: Resetting basic attack timer on-cast Cooldown decreased to 5 seconds at all ranks from 6 seconds at all ranks Cooldown refund reverted to 70% at all ranks to from 40 / 50 / 60 / 70% Damage lowered to 50 / 100 / 150 / 200 (+ 30% AP) from 60 / 110 / 160 / 210 (+ 30% AP)

#Swipe Cooldown decreased to 5 seconds at all ranks from 6 seconds at all ranks

#Aspect of cougar Added: Resets basic attack timer on-cast

#Notable reverts NOT done: keeping all 6.9 and 6.15 takedown changes keeping 7.2 invisible (but targetable) trap changes keeping 7.2 true sight on hunted keeping all bug fixes

this is what i would do

SwiftKitten882 votes

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If you removed this, she'd need huge base stat buffs to compensate.

Although this is the reason why her skillfloor is high.

yeah think HUGE was definitely confirmed by "Cheetah Nidalee" XD

SaltyKracka1 votes

You know the patch Nidalee became a design nightmare?

1.0.0.63

Nidken1 votes

If they removed this she would need significant buffs to her base damage for her to be able to clear. But if they gave her base damage buffs she would be too strong against champions.

One idea would be to nerf her base damage but buff all cougar abilities against marked targets. This would slow down her clear because she wouldn't be able to kill the neutral minions so quickly.

Not to say this is a good idea because

  1. Nidalee is in no way overbearing right now
  2. Fast Clearers aren't op like last season because of the preseason 7 jungle changes anyway.

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