Hey Riot On Ezreals comments on Ahri

PhantomGG·Sep 29, 2017·39 votes·2,471 views

Spirit Rush: Ahri was designed to be an assassin who skirts the edge of the fight looking for opportunities to get in, and a dash helps her get into the fray to make clutch picks. What changed: The original version of Ahri’s ult had an unlimited range. She’d have to continuously spend mana to travel, but if Ahri passed over an enemy champion, she’d do bonkers damage—she basically became an Ezreal ult. “We had to change this ultimate due to its interactions with the Dominion map, which is easily one of my biggest regrets on the character,” says Ezreal.

To a certain degree I feel this ultimate was somewhat given to but in a pure utility fashion, While I doubt Ahri will ever get a rework, does riot ever plan to bring this fantasy to life with someone else? For just the tone says that he REALLY wanted to make it work.

31 Comments

HalcyonDwellerSep 29, 201731 votes

I can get behind this. It's a cool concept and Ahri could do with some identity cleanup in her kit.

PhantomGGSep 29, 20173 votes

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I can get behind this. It's a cool concept and Ahri could do with some identity cleanup in her kit.

I feel it's more sad from a artist perspective that someone who worked so hard to reach a fantasy for his creation could not make it happen.

PlacentasSep 30, 20171 votes

omg, you took it to a different level of perspective lol

Flawless FetusSep 29, 201713 votes

Dominion is dead. Make it happen rito!

ArakadiaSep 30, 20171 votes

Why did Dominion create problems anyways?

SweedishGunnerSep 29, 201710 votes

I'd like it if Ahri gained more Rushes during her ult if she got kills or if she got an extra Rush with rank 2 and 3 ulti.

notice me Sin piSep 30, 20173 votes

thematically in line as the soul-sucking nine tailed fox, tho idk if it's still thematically matching as the vastanya.

Either way, i'd like to see some change that lets her rush like a ~~sexy lady~~ fox but some other parts of her would have to be nerfed to fit the power budget

yay nibbersSep 30, 20171 votes

Anything can be thematically in line with vastaya because they're pretty nebulous. What's important is that it fit's Ahri's theme and it totally does.

NineTailedMysticSep 29, 20174 votes

Only if they give her better access to Tear.

PhantomGGSep 29, 20172 votes

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Only if they give her better access to Tear.

will never happen for to do so would destroy her early game, which is the point in time she is suppose to be carrying. If you want better mana I reccomond doing one of these two strats.

item 3802 Build a lost chapter but never finish it, build your item 3285 build your item 3020 but stall on finishing last chapter so you can keep abusing it's ability to restore mana.

item 3027 Rush rod for the games you know for sure will be long and hard fought, it helps a lot.

Linna ExcelSep 29, 20171 votes

I dunno. Archangels and Morellos gives Ahri a lot of AP and mana. You can harass a lot with that build once you finish the two items. You also get the shield, which shouldn't be underrated.

My personal issue with the item is you have to decide between it and ludens, and luden's fits with her playstyle a little better. Sure you lose a little power in the early game, but if you have a jinx, a vayne, or a kog on the team, or you are laning against someone tanky like cho'gath, it's not like you are going to burst them down anyways.

PhantomGGSep 29, 20171 votes

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I dunno. Archangels and Morellos gives Ahri a lot of AP and mana. You can harass a lot with that build once you finish the two items. You also get the shield, which shouldn't be underrated.

My personal issue with the item is you have to decide between it and ludens, and luden's fits with her playstyle a little better. Sure you lose a little power in the early game, but if you have a jinx, a vayne, or a kog on the team, or you are laning against someone tanky like cho'gath, it's not like you are going to burst them down anyways.

Random tip (sorry for getting off topic) But I personally find gun blade/proto belt rush excelent solutions for this problem for it gives you that extra bit of power needed to nuke them.

SH AzykanSep 30, 20172 votes

gunblade ahri is obviously best ahri

NineTailedMysticSep 30, 20172 votes

You're talking to a one trick m8. I'm well aware of what she should or should not be doing. (Even though early game is not where Ahri is best. She has a safe laning phase that she can exploit into favorable trades and a lead if she plays well, but she is not an early game champion. She is a mid game carry.)

I assume that this ult would take a lot of mana to go even a moderate distance, so I don't see what's wrong if they gave her better access to Tear so people can build around cross map ults.

Honestly I don't find Tear bad on her now, in match ups that are complete snoozefest waveclear fights like Anivia post 6, Morgana, etc. I can usually stack Archangel's by 20 min and Seraph's + Morello is a very strong power spike at 20min.

AlmightySep 29, 20174 votes

"The original version of Ahri’s ult had an unlimited range. She’d have to continuously spend mana to travel, but if Ahri passed over an enemy champion, she’d do bonkers damage—she basically became an Ezreal ult."

I feel like AurelionSol 's E might have been inspired by this scrapped Ahri ult.

http://www.auplod.com/u/dpoula9d885.png

Nut on my ButtSep 30, 20173 votes

Thank gawd for dominion.

CatastropSep 29, 20172 votes

So Ahri would have had Storm Spirit's ult. I like the sound of that, make it happen Riot.

MLDzXnRRRSep 30, 20173 votes

She is already OP and brainless enough. We don't need Storm ult on this small map. This hero was cancer every time in DOTA when he was playable, because of his ult.

PhantomGGSep 29, 20172 votes

So some weirdo decided to troll the topic and give everyone on it a dislike.

Edit

Someone fixed it, whoever it was, thanks. To whoever did it, come on dude, do you really have nothing better to do with your life?

yay nibbersSep 30, 20171 votes

Par for the course when making a thread about Ahri in Gameplay.

Jet SettSep 29, 20172 votes

https://i.giphy.com/media/l1J9JmfcTKYrBzQ5y/giphy.gif

I imagine sort of like this, but more emphasis on damage than the utility combination. Was it supposed to be just a one off attack, or could it be used multiple times with just a high mana cost?

Karn BishopSep 30, 20172 votes

I enjoyed assassin ahri, i hate mage ahri.

koshkyraSep 29, 20171 votes

So, sion?

SooFr0stySep 29, 20171 votes

Kassadin ?

Friendly RamSep 30, 20171 votes

taliyah and sol seem to have parts of that fantasy now.

13900 EssenceSep 30, 20171 votes

Just turn aurelion sol into a full contact sport and remove his auto attacks.

Du Ma MiSep 30, 20171 votes

I'm imagining kind of like an Aurelion Sol E type of thing

TheHappyReaperzSep 30, 20171 votes

At the same time, I feel like it might be really bad. Essentially, it would just be a movespeed buff, plus onhit damage, at the cost of mana/second. So, Ahri just runs at you. Rakan's ult works for him, becuase he has other dashes in his kit. If Ahri had an ult like that, it would just be mediocre.

KlydeFrogSep 30, 20171 votes

Sooooo you basically want her ult to be like kass......

PhantomGGSep 30, 20171 votes

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Sooooo you basically want her ult to be like kass......

the entire first paragraph is a quote from someone who played a major role in designing her had nothing to do with me. Next paragraph

"To a certain degree I feel this ultimate was somewhat given to rakan but in a pure utility fashion, While I doubt Ahri will ever get a rework, does riot ever plan to bring this fantasy to life with someone else? For just the tone says that he REALLY wanted to make it work."

"WHILE I DOUBT AHRI WILL EVER GET A REWORK, DOES RIOT PLAN TO BRING THIS FANTASY TO SOMEONE ELSE"

where on earth do i say that I want ahri to have a kassadin ultimate?

KlydeFrogSep 30, 20171 votes

The ult would be identical to kass