If Riot nerfs Ahri...

Fasmodey·Jan 17, 2016·7 votes·1,502 views

I hope they just nerf her E duration. 2 seconds hard CC that is just a skillshot is pretty strong imo. Brand requires 2 skills, Ekko needs preparation etc. Durations that are higher than 1.5 requires more things or they have disadvantages like how Rammus' taunt doesn't deal damage, same for Fiddlesticks fear too.

This duration a bit high, I would prefer 1.5.

Not: As an Ahri main, she is sure going to get nerfed. So, when they nerf her, I prefer E duration nerf over mana regen, mana cost, damage, cooldown. It's the best way to nerf her. If there will be no nerf, I have no problem ofc.

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Charmed by AhriJan 18, 20165 votes

Has less than 30 games on Ahri. Claims to be Ahri main. You make me sick. Charm Nerf? You must've bumped your head or something. Just because pros are playing a champion in the LCS doesn't mean they need to be nerfed. At which rate Lucian, anivia, alistar, Elise, rek'sai, lissandra would be sure to be gutted then??
Oh let's not forget Ahri's Charm is a CC that has to be maxed to get the full 2 second duration.
According to statistics only 10% out of all servers who play Ahri throw points into charm, thats 90% of Ahris playing to be less skillful. The CC has to be maxed, like Veigar(2.25 sec CC), Fiddles(2.25 sec CC) in order to obtain magier CC. Which is sad considering so many other mages like xerath, anivia syndra, lissandra, get their full CC at rank 1 of their ability. If anything this sets Ahri aside uniquely, yet again, as a set of champions who have to put points into their CC to obtain CC duration, in my opinion this is far more balanced than say champions who get max CC at rank 1. Then your saying you want a CC duration Nerf on Ahri? Go play a different champion who gets their CC without having to rank it up. You won't be missed.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charmed by Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:35:49.185+0000)

Has less than 30 games on Ahri. Claims to be Ahri main. You make me sick. Charm Nerf? You must've bumped your head or something. Just because pros are playing a champion in the LCS doesn't mean they need to be nerfed. At which rate Lucian, anivia, alistar, Elise, rek'sai, lissandra would be sure to be gutted then??
Oh let's not forget Ahri's Charm is a CC that has to be maxed to get the full 2 second duration.
According to statistics only 10% out of all servers who play Ahri throw points into charm, thats 90% of Ahris playing to be less skillful. The CC has to be maxed, like Veigar(2.25 sec CC), Fiddles(2.25 sec CC) in order to obtain magier CC. Which is sad considering so many other mages like xerath, anivia syndra, lissandra, get their full CC at rank 1 of their ability. If anything this sets Ahri aside uniquely, yet again, as a set of champions who have to put points into their CC to obtain CC duration, in my opinion this is far more balanced than say champions who get max CC at rank 1. Then your saying you want a CC duration Nerf on Ahri? Go play a different champion who gets their CC without having to rank it up. You won't be missed.

246-276 overall WL (negative winrate, haha) while you have %54 winrate with Ahri, also plat 4.

I have 120 games, just 28 games are by Ahri. %86 winrate, 11.2 - 3.5 KD. Also Diamond 3.

If I'm making you sick, then you give me cancer.

It is pretty easy to say who is better at Ahri. With 28 games, I'm 2 or 3 times better than you. Sad.

I didn't say she needs a nerf, can't you read? I'm pretty sure she is going to be nerfed, then I prefer E nerf to damage nerf.

If she gets nerfed, don't cry okay? Because I'm also good at other champions like Syndra, Xerath, Lissandra, Orianna. Not completely shit like you.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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246-276 overall WL (negative winrate, haha) while you have %54 winrate with Ahri, also plat 4.

I have 120 games, just 28 games are by Ahri. %86 winrate, 11.2 - 3.5 KD. Also Diamond 3.

If I'm making you sick, then you give me cancer.

It is pretty easy to say who is better at Ahri. With 28 games, I'm 2 or 3 times better than you. Sad.

I didn't say she needs a nerf, can't you read? I'm pretty sure she is going to be nerfed, then I prefer E nerf to damage nerf.

If she gets nerfed, don't cry okay? Because I'm also good at other champions like Syndra, Xerath, Lissandra, Orianna. Not completely shit like you.

You don't understand.Problem is that;CC is very unimportant for enemy team.(Cleanse,Qss vs vs.) But q movement speed and her ult giving very much mobility.Not much, very much.You don't gank her post-6 so Ahri is free elo champion now.0 gank fear.You don't need her ult for escape enemy jungler ganks because q skill enough.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T16:52:40.125+0000)

You don't understand.Problem is that;CC is very unimportant for enemy team.(Cleanse,Qss vs vs.) But q movement speed and her ult giving very much mobility.Not much, very much.You don't gank her post-6 so Ahri is free elo champion now.0 gank fear.You don't need her ult for escape enemy jungler ganks because q skill enough.

Ahri is reworked as a kite mage, which means she should have to be mobile as she can. The problem is she also has a really strong hard CC. The only thing should be nerfed on Ahri is his E duration if she gets nerfed.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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Ahri is reworked as a kite mage, which means she should have to be mobile as she can. The problem is she also has a really strong hard CC. The only thing should be nerfed on Ahri is his E duration if she gets nerfed.

Not less mobile,very much mobile(extreme).Problem is this.Yes true Ahri is assassin mage but problem;extreme mobile.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T17:08:41.278+0000)

Not less mobile,very much mobile(extreme).Problem is this.Yes true Ahri is assassin mage but problem;extreme mobile.

You're overreacting. Big part of her mobility get restricted by mediocre cooldown. As a kite mage, how can you be kite mage at every 110/95/80 ? She needs movement speed. If her movement speed get removed ever, dont be surprised when you saw damage buffs.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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You're overreacting. Big part of her mobility get restricted by mediocre cooldown. As a kite mage, how can you be kite mage at every 110/95/80 ? She needs movement speed. If her movement speed get removed ever, dont be surprised when you saw damage buffs.

According to you Ahri must be continuous broken and free elo all.She doesn't need damage buffs even her movement speed get removed.I think %54 win rate very much for one champion.Maximum %52.So she needs nerf.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T17:28:49.735+0000)

According to you Ahri must be continuous broken and free elo all.She doesn't need damage buffs even her movement speed get removed.I think %54 win rate very much for one champion.Maximum %52.So she needs nerf.

If she is so broken, why do you have %50 winrate and 6.5 - 9.8 KD?

A rioter said normal winrate of a easy champion should be %53 or something. Ahri is an easy champion. If her movement speed gets removed without compensation, she becomes trash tier.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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If she is so broken, why do you have %50 winrate and 6.5 - 9.8 KD?

A rioter said normal winrate of a easy champion should be %53 or something. Ahri is an easy champion. If her movement speed gets removed without compensation, she becomes trash tier.

%53+ win rate broken absolutely.Please don't protest to this situation.Ahri is broken now.She picks continuous Lck,Lcs.Because she is broken and she was noticed.Also this is account not mine.I took this account from friend.Also I didn't play with Ahri since Worlds.Because she wasn't op Worlds but now she is broken.Reason;Got nerf all ap mages (except Ahri,Lux,Diana).My current account
http://tr.op.gg/summoner/userName=Kavun Ahri has high KDA,Win rate,Pick rate.Enough for nerfs.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000300000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T18:08:25.053+0000)

%53+ win rate broken absolutely.Please don't protest to this situation.Ahri is broken now.She picks continuous Lck,Lcs.Because she is broken and she was noticed.Also this is account not mine.I took this account from friend.Also I didn't play with Ahri since Worlds.Because she wasn't op Worlds but now she is broken.Reason;Got nerf all ap mages (except Ahri,Lux,Diana).My current account
http://tr.op.gg/summoner/userName=Kavun Ahri has high KDA,Win rate,Pick rate.Enough for nerfs.

You don't know what broken means. Broken champions can't be fixed with numbers. Their skillsets don't allow to do this. Ahri's kit is one of the healthiest in the high winrate champions. You don't feel fragile while you're playing against her like LeBlanc or Zed. She can be balanceable.

You have %44 winrate in your main account and are you still complaning? You're clearly don't know how to play this champion which is super easy. You're bad with her, ofc you will have trumble while playing against her. The best way to counter a champion is learning its style and gameplay.

Also I agree, Ahri's winrate a bit high, but it can be down to %52 easily with charm nerf. Not something like %45 with removing movement speed. You dont know how to balance, you're not objective. AS AN AHRI MAIN, I'm discussing an Ahri nerf, how am I defensing my waifu?

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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You don't know what broken means. Broken champions can't be fixed with numbers. Their skillsets don't allow to do this. Ahri's kit is one of the healthiest in the high winrate champions. You don't feel fragile while you're playing against her like LeBlanc or Zed. She can be balanceable.

You have %44 winrate in your main account and are you still complaning? You're clearly don't know how to play this champion which is super easy. You're bad with her, ofc you will have trumble while playing against her. The best way to counter a champion is learning its style and gameplay.

Also I agree, Ahri's winrate a bit high, but it can be down to %52 easily with charm nerf. Not something like %45 with removing movement speed. You dont know how to balance, you're not objective. AS AN AHRI MAIN, I'm discussing an Ahri nerf, how am I defensing my waifu?

%45.Exaggeration.Worst %51 or %50.Also Ahri's kit isn't healthiest,strongest.Ahri's win with %49 the worst matchup.Why? Healthiest? No.Strongest.Riot must be fixed her.Also Ahri isn't my main.So I can have %44 win rate but KDA? More KDA than Azir.Moreover I'm Azir main.Forgive me! Ahri needs nerfs but arguable nerf kinds.

FasmodeyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T18:31:30.999+0000)

%45.Exaggeration.Worst %51 or %50.Also Ahri's kit isn't healthiest,strongest.Ahri's win with %49 the worst matchup.Why? Healthiest? No.Strongest.Riot must be fixed her.

No, it's %45 against Diana.

Saying Ahri is the strongest makes me stop argumenting. Dream what you want, but she will not lose her movement speed. Sorry.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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No, it's %45 against Diana.

Saying Ahri is the strongest makes me stop argumenting. Dream what you want, but she will not lose her movement speed. Sorry.

Diana counterpick for Ahri.Also Diana too.Diana is strong atm now.But we see Ahri will be nerf.I'm sure.Absolutely will be nerf.But nerf kinds are changeable.Riot decides meta and next nerf for Ahri.Ahri is strongest champion for mid lane.Strongest.I'm sure.

LadyRenlyJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Charmed by Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:35:49.185+0000)

Has less than 30 games on Ahri. Claims to be Ahri main. You make me sick. Charm Nerf? You must've bumped your head or something. Just because pros are playing a champion in the LCS doesn't mean they need to be nerfed. At which rate Lucian, anivia, alistar, Elise, rek'sai, lissandra would be sure to be gutted then??
Oh let's not forget Ahri's Charm is a CC that has to be maxed to get the full 2 second duration.
According to statistics only 10% out of all servers who play Ahri throw points into charm, thats 90% of Ahris playing to be less skillful. The CC has to be maxed, like Veigar(2.25 sec CC), Fiddles(2.25 sec CC) in order to obtain magier CC. Which is sad considering so many other mages like xerath, anivia syndra, lissandra, get their full CC at rank 1 of their ability. If anything this sets Ahri aside uniquely, yet again, as a set of champions who have to put points into their CC to obtain CC duration, in my opinion this is far more balanced than say champions who get max CC at rank 1. Then your saying you want a CC duration Nerf on Ahri? Go play a different champion who gets their CC without having to rank it up. You won't be missed.

With a name like Charmed by Ahri, I am sure you are an expert on Ahri Charms

blfUvZ8YbuJan 17, 20163 votes

Ahri is broken now.Pro scene shows this.I hope Riot nerfs her.But her q movement speed must be removed.This is fair.

FasmodeyJan 17, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-17T22:24:20.724+0000)

Ahri is broken now.Pro scene shows this.I hope Riot nerfs her.But her q movement speed must be removed.This is fair.

It would destroy her lel. They gave ms thing because of they removed his %20 magic damage amp. If you remove her, she is going to have nothing.

You're super bad at balancing.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 17, 20161 votes

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It would destroy her lel. They gave ms thing because of they removed his %20 magic damage amp. If you remove her, she is going to have nothing.

You're super bad at balancing.

No.Her charm is fine.Q skill is very ridiculous.Because she already has 3 dashes and ult cooldown very low.So q movement speed must be removed.

FasmodeyJan 17, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-01-17T22:37:17.678+0000)

No.Her charm is fine.Q skill is very ridiculous.Because she already has 3 dashes and ult cooldown very low.So q movement speed must be removed.

Then they will increase her damage and you will cry anyway.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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Then they will increase her damage and you will cry anyway.

Ahri already strong for 3 years.Because you cried continous.Also Riot loves female champs so they didn't her.

Popstar AhriJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-17T22:24:20.724+0000)

Ahri is broken now.Pro scene shows this.I hope Riot nerfs her.But her q movement speed must be removed.This is fair.

You must had never experienced agianst an Ahri at season 3-4

removing her Q movement speed would mean that they will have to revert the 20% amp damage on charm and her range on foxfire like how it was before they added in the movement speed to her Q

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:22:42.305+0000)

You must had never experienced agianst an Ahri at season 3-4

removing her Q movement speed would mean that they will have to revert the 20% amp damage on charm and her range on foxfire like how it was before they added in the movement speed to her Q

Ahri has enough true damage.She needs this nerf.But her e skill fine.If Ahri doesn't nerf in this wise she will be nerf very much.

Maximum MordeJan 18, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:22:42.305+0000)

You must had never experienced agianst an Ahri at season 3-4

removing her Q movement speed would mean that they will have to revert the 20% amp damage on charm and her range on foxfire like how it was before they added in the movement speed to her Q

No, all they need to do is attach the move speed to her foxfire and make itso she only gets the speed boost if she actually hits something with it to proc, rather than farting out an orb in a random direction to run fast.

That or they can attach it to her passive instead so she gains the speed boost whenever she procs her passive heal.

I don't have a huge problem with the speed boost itself, just how it's currently attached to her.

Poro PrincessJan 17, 20162 votes

Well, Morgana's Q is 2 seconds as well.

TroiannJan 17, 20163 votes

It's three. And people hate morgana for a reason.

WalkingInACircleJan 17, 20162 votes

Oh no. It's 2 seconds at level 1. It's 3 seconds at level 5. Ahri's is 1 second at level 1, 2 seconds at level 5.

Recruit RushJan 18, 20161 votes

Morgana has to deal dmg with her MEGAPOWERFULEXTRADESTROYEREXPLOSIVE ability known as W, that deals like 100 per second, like, wow, how do you want Morg to deal dmg if the snare doesn't last for 3 seconds? The shield does no dmg either. Ahri has 4 damaging abilities, here's the difference.

WalkingInACircleJan 18, 20161 votes

Actually Morgana's Q, W, and R all do more damage than any ability ahri has except her rank 3 ultimate (which manages to be more than morgana's Q). Her total damage is much higher than ahri's.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20162 votes

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Actually Morgana's Q, W, and R all do more damage than any ability ahri has except her rank 3 ultimate (which manages to be more than morgana's Q). Her total damage is much higher than ahri's.

Ahri is more safe,Ahri's true damage+ap damage>Morgana's ap damage.

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T16:25:02.689+0000)

Ahri is more safe,Ahri's true damage+ap damage>Morgana's ap damage.

I already told you yes its fair and Morgana is very safe with her unstoppable shield. Also don't even reply to me anymore since you want to compair winrates. you are talking about a 2% difference. Which is hardly anything at all. Also you are comparing a mid laner to another champion that has been played mainly as support. Graves has a 56% winrate does that mean we should nerf him too? Just drop it and stop complaining.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T16:39:38.352+0000)

I already told you yes its fair and Morgana is very safe with her unstoppable shield. Also don't even reply to me anymore since you want to compair winrates. you are talking about a 2% difference. Which is hardly anything at all. Also you are comparing a mid laner to another champion that has been played mainly as support. Graves has a 56% winrate does that mean we should nerf him too? Just drop it and stop complaining.

Yes Graves has a %56 win rate and we should nerf him.He needs nerfs.Champions balance must be around %53-%47 win rate not %43-%57 (for all champions) Because in this wise the game isn't fair.Game cleaved:Free elo champions and underdog champions.

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T16:44:30.184+0000)

Yes Graves has a %56 win rate and we should nerf him.He needs nerfs.Champions balance must be around %53-%47 win rate not %43-%57 (for all champions) Because in this wise the game isn't fair.Game cleaved:Free elo champions and underdog champions.

Now your nitpicking and giving your own opinion on what balance should be? Who are you again and how much experience do you have in champion balancing again? Why should we listen to you?

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20162 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T16:57:16.131+0000)

Now your nitpicking and giving your own opinion on what balance should be? Who are you again and how much experience do you have in champion balancing again? Why should we listen to you?

I have enough games for this game and champions information.Also I'm against free elo champion.Graves is free elo.Games show this.Ahri needs nerfs.Because she has %54.3 win rate.Ok? Very much for one champion.

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T17:12:01.099+0000)

I have enough games for this game and champions information.Also I'm against free elo champion.Graves is free elo.Games show this.Ahri needs nerfs.Because she has %54.3 win rate.Ok? Very much for one champion.

I been here since early season 1 and i still say you are wrong. But go ahead and keep talking.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T18:31:47.661+0000)

I been here since early season 1 and i still say you are wrong. But go ahead and keep talking.

Since early season 1 and you still don't learn game balance.You play underdog champions and then you say about this topic.Underdog champions;Azir,Rumble;Nunu;Gragas;Cass.

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T18:37:46.572+0000)

Since early season 1 and you still don't learn game balance.You play underdog champions and then you say about this topic.Underdog champions;Azir,Rumble;Nunu;Gragas;Cass.

enough is enough. As i said before you dont know anything about game balance or champion design since you wanted to compare 2 completely different champions that don't even share the same role or do the same thing. You are no body with no experience in champion design or balance. Just stop it. You own opinion matters not and also there is much more to worry about in this game then a ahri nerf. Go and add your thoughts on that and see if anyone cares.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T18:53:34.616+0000)

enough is enough. As i said before you dont know anything about game balance or champion design since you wanted to compare 2 completely different champions that don't even share the same role or do the same thing. You are no body with no experience in champion design or balance. Just stop it. You own opinion matters not and also there is much more to worry about in this game then a ahri nerf. Go and add your thoughts on that and see if anyone cares.

You're saying shortly : I like op or broken champions.You don't deny.You confess.As a result Ahri has high win rate,pick rate and KDA.So she needs nerfs.Please don't deny.Ridiculous win rate.%54.5

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T19:21:35.413+0000)

You're saying shortly : I like op or broken champions.You don't deny.You confess.As a result Ahri has high win rate,pick rate and KDA.So she needs nerfs.Please don't deny.Ridiculous win rate.%54.5

Sorry I don't play ahri much I main Katarina who is probably in top 10 worst champions in league. I played her threw ups and downs. Next you'll say she's broken and the only broken I'll agree with is she can't lane and her damage in team fights is shut down rather easy. So ya she's broken in a bad way right now. But you still haven't a clue on champion design or balancing.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 19, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T22:57:09.915+0000)

Sorry I don't play ahri much I main Katarina who is probably in top 10 worst champions in league. I played her threw ups and downs. Next you'll say she's broken and the only broken I'll agree with is she can't lane and her damage in team fights is shut down rather easy. So ya she's broken in a bad way right now. But you still haven't a clue on champion design or balancing.

I think Ahri is still broken champion.This does not change and will never change.She needs nerfs.I can not accept %53+ win rate.Sorry.She is so strong.

Popstar AhriJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Happy Poro,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-17T21:56:51.649+0000)

Well, Morgana's Q is 2 seconds as well.

its 3 seconds when maxed out at level 5 on morgana...

Ahri's 2 second when its maxed out...

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:20:28.881+0000)

its 3 seconds when maxed out at level 5 on morgana...

Ahri's 2 second when its maxed out...

Ahri has 4 flash but Morgana 1 :) Also Ahri has true damage but Morgana hasn't.

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-01-18T01:35:29.749+0000)

Ahri has 4 flash but Morgana 1 :) Also Ahri has true damage but Morgana hasn't.

Morgana has a shield that ignores cc = fair.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Master Anubis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T14:49:27.527+0000)

Morgana has a shield that ignores cc = fair.

Ahri has true damage and cc and 4 flash.Is it fair?

Sinister AnubisJan 18, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KLks018E,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-18T14:59:43.646+0000)

Ahri has true damage and cc and 4 flash.Is it fair?

the true dmg is hardly noticeble like at all. and no she doesn't have 4 flashs. she has 3 dashs which she can not spam like she could on release. Ahri is a assassin poke mage and morgana is a support mage. Big difference. So yes its fair.

blfUvZ8YbuJan 18, 20161 votes

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the true dmg is hardly noticeble like at all. and no she doesn't have 4 flashs. she has 3 dashs which she can not spam like she could on release. Ahri is a assassin poke mage and morgana is a support mage. Big difference. So yes its fair.

Ahri has %54.1 win rate ,Morgana has %51.5. Is it fair? Ahri is safe Morgana isn't.Is it fair?